[PHP-DEV] edit.php.net is down

2020-07-30 Thread Andreas Heigl
Hey folks. Edit.php.net is down. And from the tweet I got not only for some hours (https://twitter.com/arueckauer/status/1288728325331079168) Can either anyone with access to the system (pb11.php.net) have a look or grant me access so that I can have a look? According to https://wiki.php.net/syst

[PHP-DEV] Re: edit.php.net is down

2020-07-30 Thread Сергей Пантелеев
Hi, Was created a new edit box (http://edit-new.php.net/,  https://github.com/php/systems/commit/c79853fe86f9e844a39bd36b7918298a4b924c5d), but login throws an error. It fixed easy, but I have no karma to merge this fix (https://github.com/php/web-doc-editor/pull/18) As a temporary solution yo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Allow two words keywords

2020-07-30 Thread Deleu
Such a nice syntax. Even better than @@ and @. I wish this could get more attention/traction. On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, 19:46 David Rodrigues wrote: > Oh, you are right! "yield from" is not common for me currently, so I really > skipped it. > > In this case, is there some problem to apply it to Attr

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] com php-src: Remove PHP_CHECK_GCC_ARG(): UPGRADING.INTERNALS build/php.m4 configure.ac

2020-07-30 Thread Derick Rethans
Hi Nikita, This is unfortunately a breaking change. In my config.m4 file for Xdebug I have: AC_MSG_CHECKING([Check for supported PHP versions]) PHP_XDEBUG_FOUND_VERSION=`${PHP_CONFIG} --version` PHP_XDEBUG_FOUND_VERNUM=`echo "${PHP_XDEBUG_FOUND_VERSION}" | $AWK 'BEGIN { FS = "."; } { prin

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: edit.php.net is down

2020-07-30 Thread Сергей Пантелеев
Thanks, Peter! PR was merged. Now, should we use https://edit-new.php.net/ or edit php.net zone like that (https://github.com/saundefined/systems/commit/955c6145933b59a67237c5257766aa1ff5ee225c)? — wbr Sergey Panteleev On 30 Jul 2020, 11:44 +0300, Сергей Пантелеев , wrote: > Hi, > > Was created

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
I think it has become clear that we need to revisit this syntax question again, including the elephpant in the room of delaying this feature to 8.1. The reason is not only Joe's desire to revote on #[], but also that there are now more syntax proposals such as @[] by Derick or @@ in comments by Ty

Re: [PHP-DEV] Allow two words keywords

2020-07-30 Thread Josh Bruce
Maybe add it to that thread?? https://externals.io/message/111218 Cheers, Josh > On Jul 30, 2020, at 4:50 AM, Deleu wrote: > > Such a nice syntax. Even better than @@ and @. I wish this could get more > attention/traction. > >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020, 19:46 David Rodrigues wrote: >> >> Oh, y

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread Joe Ferguson
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:50 AM Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > I think it has become clear that we need to revisit this syntax question > again, including the elephpant in the room of delaying this feature to 8.1. > > The reason is not only Joe's desire to revote on #[], > > No, I *do not* want to re

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread David Rodrigues
I would like to suggests the syntax "using attribute(Attribute, ...)". It is more clear and should not create BC. Em qui, 30 de jul de 2020 10:28, Joe Ferguson escreveu: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:50 AM Benjamin Eberlei > wrote: > > > I think it has become clear that we need to revisit this sy

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread tyson andre
Hi Benjamin, > The reason is not only Joe's desire to revote on #[], but also that there > are now more syntax proposals such as @[] by Derick or @@ in comments by > Tyson (though no patch exists for it yet). At this point a lot of syntaxes > are potentially viable (except single @, please don't s

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread tyson andre
Hi David, > I would like to suggests the syntax "using attribute(Attribute, ...)". It > is more clear and should not create BC. I'd agree that it's implementable and works with the tokenizer. My main objection is the verbosity, which is the reason I assume many other languages have fairly short

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread David Rodrigues
I think that verbosity is not a problem if compared to "strange mixed symbols", mainly to new users. Google it is a bit hard "what means double at". And "using attribute" is very clear. Anyway, I think that is valid we use it for now until we have a good symbol arrangement, and on future we could

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread Rowan Tommins
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:28, Joe Ferguson wrote: > ... I'm still here wanting us to talk about the > impact of @@ on static analysis tools. Apparently, internals doesn't care > about these projects. > I don't think that's a reasonable summary of this thread at all. I've seen three main types o

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
Question: The key factor of not using @ is due to conflict of suppression symbol. While we are in a major (where BC breaks are not encourage, but tolerable), have we considered the possibility of BC breaking suppression symbol (@ would become @@) and using @ for Attributes? I bet a search/replace

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread Benjamin Eberlei
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 6:19 PM guilhermebla...@gmail.com < guilhermebla...@gmail.com> wrote: > Question: The key factor of not using @ is due to conflict of > suppression symbol. > While we are in a major (where BC breaks are not encourage, but > tolerable), have we considered the possibility of

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread Rowan Tommins
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 17:18, guilhermebla...@gmail.com < guilhermebla...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I bet a search/replace wouldn't be that hard to be achieved > Find-and-replace always sounds like a good idea, until you realise that people run *a lot* of third-party code. I would not enjoy going th

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread guilhermebla...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:30 PM Rowan Tommins wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 17:18, guilhermebla...@gmail.com < > guilhermebla...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I bet a search/replace wouldn't be that hard to be achieved > > > > > Find-and-replace always sounds like a good idea, until you realise

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-07-30 Thread tyson andre
Hi Joe Ferguson, > Now that it seems the technical concerns around @@ have been resolved by > another pending, passing, RFC, I'm still here wanting us to talk about the > impact of @@ on static analysis tools. Apparently, internals doesn't care > about these projects. I care and I'm trying to help