Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-02 Thread Derick Rethans
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > Personally I favor #[] myself, but there has been a vote with a > substantial participation choosing @@. Overturning this democratic > outcome should require **significant** technical arguments, otherwise > this RFC would provide problematic preced

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-02 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > I think it has become clear that we need to revisit this syntax question > again, including the elephpant in the room of delaying this feature to 8.1. > > The reason is not only Joe's desire to revote on #[], but also that there > are now more syntax

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-02 Thread Theodore Brown
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:06 AM Derick Rethans wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > > > Personally I favor #[] myself, but there has been a vote with a > > substantial participation choosing @@. Overturning this democratic > > outcome should require **significant** technical a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: edit.php.net is down

2020-08-02 Thread Peter Cowburn
On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:30, Сергей Пантелеев wrote: > Thanks, Peter! > > PR was merged. > > Now, should we use https://edit-new.php.net/ or edit php.net zone like > that ( > https://github.com/saundefined/systems/commit/955c6145933b59a67237c5257766aa1ff5ee225c > )? > Neither, not until the edi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: edit.php.net is down

2020-08-02 Thread Tiffany Taylor
I am happy to volunteer, but I'm unsure what needs to be done, and I may need help. :/ Tiffany On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 3:53 PM Peter Cowburn wrote: > > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:30, Сергей Пантелеев > wrote: > >> Thanks, Peter! >> >> PR was merged. >> >> Now, should we use https://edit-new.php.

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: edit.php.net is down

2020-08-02 Thread Haseeb A. Basil
> > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:30, Сергей Пантелеев > > wrote: > > Neither, not until the edit-new box is up and running smoothly. > > Volunteers to make that happen are welcome. > I am also happy to volunteer, just tell me what needs to be done. Regards

[PHP-DEV] 8.0 Feature Freeze

2020-08-02 Thread Sara Golemon
FF officially hits on Tuesday, so here's the status of the repo: IF YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS IS INCLUDED IN THE TO: FIELD, THEN YOU HAVE HOMEWORK ATTACHED. RFCs still in voting phase: * StackFrame class: This seems poised to fail, so no action needed. * Phar Metadata unserialization: This is poised to o

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-02 Thread Dan Ackroyd
Theodore Brown wrote: > > The Shorter Attribute Syntax RFC explicitly mentioned that the @@ > syntax would supersede the grouped attributes proposal: [1] >From the RFC: > > # Unaffected Functionality > ...it will supersede the syntax for grouped attributes. I missed that change at least in part

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-02 Thread Joe Ferguson
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:11 AM Derick Rethans wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Benjamin Eberlei wrote: > > > I think it has become clear that we need to revisit this syntax question > > again, including the elephpant in the room of delaying this feature to > 8.1. > > > > The reason is not only Joe'

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Shorter Attribute Syntax Change

2020-08-02 Thread Theodore Brown
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 4:40 PM Dan Ackroyd wrote: > Theodore Brown wrote: > > > > The Shorter Attribute Syntax RFC explicitly mentioned that the @@ > > syntax would supersede the grouped attributes proposal: [1] > > From the RFC: > > > > # Unaffected Functionality > > ...it will supersede the s

[PHP-DEV] Feature Request: dependencies container

2020-08-02 Thread 3u93n3
The main idea is to take control over objects creation and injecting dependencies. 1. Some of them are provided through constructor (those, which could only be retrieved right before instantiating our object). 2. Others are provided through `__inject` and PHP will inject all those dependencies aut

Re: [PHP-DEV] Feature Request: dependencies container

2020-08-02 Thread Marco Pivetta
Heya, On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 05:32 3u93n3 wrote: > The main idea is to take control over objects creation and injecting > dependencies. > > 1. Some of them are provided through constructor (those, which could only > be retrieved right before instantiating our object). > 2. Others are provided thro

Re: [PHP-DEV] Feature Request: dependencies container

2020-08-02 Thread Marco Pivetta
Re-writing with the internals ML in CC On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 06:16 3u93n3 wrote: > > 2. Setter injection (as well as property injection, and also the > proposed `__inject`) leads to temporal coupling smells. Explained > otherwise, your object instances are not "functioning" right after > instanti

[PHP-DEV] Re: Feature Request: dependencies container

2020-08-02 Thread Mark Randall
On 03/08/2020 04:31, 3u93n3 wrote: The main idea is to take control over objects creation and injecting dependencies. Hi 3u93n3, Thank you for the effort. However, it is generally accepted that this kind of functionality belongs to userland rather than the core. There are a few issues with t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: edit.php.net is down

2020-08-02 Thread Сергей Пантелеев
I'll be happy to help too wbr, Sergey Panteleev On 3 Aug 2020, 00:30 +0300, Peter Cowburn , wrote: > > Neither, not until the edit-new box is up and running smoothly.  Volunteers > to make that happen are welcome.