Re: [PHP-DEV] Revisiting case-sensitivity in PHP

2024-06-10 Thread Ben Ramsey
> On Jun 10, 2024, at 20:35, Valentin Udaltsov > wrote: > > Hi, internals! > > 9 years have passed since the last discussions of case sensitive PHP: > https://externals.io/message/79824 and https://externals.io/message/83640. > Here I would like to revisit this topic. > > What is

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Asymmetric Visibility, v2

2024-06-10 Thread Lanre
Why invest time in crafting yet another pull request or RFC when it's glaringly obvious that you guys have no clue what you're doing? First, there's the questionable decision to implement JIT in 8.0, followed by the introduction of an entirely new library (IR) to a language that's predominantly

[PHP-DEV] Revisiting case-sensitivity in PHP

2024-06-10 Thread Valentin Udaltsov
Hi, internals! 9 years have passed since the last discussions of case sensitive PHP: https://externals.io/message/79824 and https://externals.io/message/83640. Here I would like to revisit this topic. What is case-sensitive in PHP 8.3: - variables - constants (all since

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Asymmetric Visibility, v2

2024-06-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On 10 June 2024 21:17:38 BST, Lanre wrote: >You guys are killing PHP. There is a lot of work to be done on the engine >to modernize it and make it more robust and sturdy. Shit like this just >adds more complexity to PHP in the name of convenience. I think this is my >cue to explore other

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Asymmetric Visibility, v2

2024-06-10 Thread Lanre
You guys are killing PHP. There is a lot of work to be done on the engine to modernize it and make it more robust and sturdy. Shit like this just adds more complexity to PHP in the name of convenience. I think this is my cue to explore other languages for handling requests On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at

[PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Vote] New ext-dom features in PHP 8.4

2024-06-10 Thread Niels Dossche
Hi internals I'm opening the vote of my RFC "New ext-dom features in PHP 8.4". RFC link: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/dom_additions_84 Voting runs until 24th of June 21:00 GMT+2. Kind regards Niels

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Asymmetric Visibility, v2

2024-06-10 Thread Rodrigo Vieira
I didn't like the `Prefix-style` syntax. I prefer the `Hook-embedded-style` syntax. First let's look at the counterpoints of the `Prefix-style` syntax: ## 1) "`Prefix-style` is more visually scannable" > The set visibility is 10 lines away from the get visibility! Solution: ```php class

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Vote] #[\Deprecated] attribute

2024-06-10 Thread Tim Düsterhus
Hi On 6/5/24 10:16, Benjamin Außenhofer wrote: Tim will finalize the implementation PR now and work on its merge in the upcoming days. During review Ilija pointed out that adding the internal ZEND_ACC_DEPRECATED flag was skipped for abstract methods and interface methods, questioning the

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Asymmetric Visibility, v2

2024-06-10 Thread Tiffany
On Wed, May 29, 2024, 2:16 PM Larry Garfield wrote: > As promised, Ilija and I offer this revised version of asymmetric > visibility. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/asymmetric-visibility-v2 > > It's still essentially the same as last year's version, but with a few > adjustments and changes: > > *

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Vote] Property Hooks

2024-06-10 Thread Larry Garfield
On Mon, Jun 10, 2024, at 12:33 PM, Valentin Udaltsov wrote: > On Sunday, 9 June, 2024 at 19:03, Nikita Popov wrote: >> __ >> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, at 18:43, Larry Garfield wrote: >>> The vote for the Property Hooks RFC is now open: >>> >>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/property-hooks >>> >>> Voting

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Vote] Property Hooks

2024-06-10 Thread Valentin Udaltsov
On Sunday, 9 June, 2024 at 19:03, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2024, at 18:43, Larry Garfield wrote: > > The vote for the Property Hooks RFC is now open: > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/property-hooks > > Voting will close on Monday 29 April, afternoonish Chicago time. > > > The other