Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

Hello everyone, I would like everyone to slow down a bit and give a think about this: English is not the primary language for the vast majority of people. are a thing and a lot of people, actually, work with PHP that either does not know English at all or, know the basics and rarely have the En

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

> Am 18.06.2020 um 20:24 schrieb Lynn : > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:38 PM Bob Weinand > wrote: > P.s. And to be honest, I've never heard from a dark-skinned person that they > felt actually oppressed by words like blacklist. > > And here my personal opinion,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:38 PM Bob Weinand wrote: > P.s. And to be honest, I've never heard from a dark-skinned person that > they felt actually oppressed by words like blacklist. > > And here my personal opinion, to be taken with a grain of salt: This whole > white- and blacklist discussion is

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

> Am 18.06.2020 um 00:36 schrieb Jakob Givoni : > To repeat what has been said many times over now: It's when "black" is > associated with "bad" in a composite term like "blacklist" we should > consider being considerate of a group of people who actually have skin > of that color. > > Best, > Jako

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 4:22 PM Chase Peeler wrote: > > Please stop using the term "glob." As a person that is above what many > would consider an ideal weight, I've been called a "useless glob" on > multiple occasions. This term is harmful to me as a result. > Though I know you're joking (and I

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:22:02AM -0400, Chase Peeler wrote: > None of the above are actually true (except for the fact that I'm > overweight). The point I'm trying to raise is that context matters, and > changing terms because some people refuse to understand the context is not > justified. Othe

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 5:46 AM Michał Marcin Brzuchalski < michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lester, > > wt., 16 cze 2020 o 15:55 Lester Caine napisał(a): > > > On 16/06/2020 13:14, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to > chang

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 11:46:12AM +0200, Michał Marcin Brzuchalski wrote: > Therefore IMO we should choose a new name wisely so it can be > self-descriptive. Also: important to choose words/names that are being adopted elsewhere; thus people will recognise it as they have learned it elsewhere.

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

Hi Kalle, wt., 16 cze 2020 o 14:35 Kalle Sommer Nielsen napisał(a): > ... > > The RFC is here > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/change-terminology-to-excludelist > > The pull request in the linked RFC does not seem to reflect all the > details of this RFC, the PR also changes the whitelist to allowlist

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

Hi Lester, wt., 16 cze 2020 o 15:55 Lester Caine napisał(a): > On 16/06/2020 13:14, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change > > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > > self-descriptive terminology. > > Since

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:55 AM Lester Caine wrote: > On 16/06/2020 13:14, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change > > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > > self-descriptive terminology. > > Since there will

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

On 16/06/2020 13:14, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better self-descriptive terminology. Since there will be a higher level change to all these terms - in all likelihood -

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

> Le 16 juin 2020 à 14:14, Michał Brzuchalski a > écrit : > > Hi Internals, > > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > self-descriptive terminology. > > > The RFC is here https://wiki.php.net/

RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList Hi Internals, I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better self-descriptive terminology. The RFC is here https://wiki.php.net/rfc/change

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

Hi Den tir. 16. jun. 2020 kl. 15.15 skrev Michał Brzuchalski : > > Hi Internals, > > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > self-descriptive terminology. I disagree with this statement, and I do not

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 at 13:15, Michał Brzuchalski wrote: > > Hi Internals, > > I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change > the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better > self-descriptive terminology. Hi Michał, Thanks for posting the RFC. In my opin

[PHP-DEV] [RFC][Discussion] Change terminology to ExcludeList

Hi Internals, I'd like to start a discussion period for my RFC which proposes to change the use of "blacklist" in Opcache configuration with better self-descriptive terminology. The RFC is here https://wiki.php.net/rfc/change-terminology-to-excludelist Discussions should remain on the list. Any