Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-09 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, Davey Shafik wrote: > Anyway, this is far off topic IMO. This RFC isn't going to kill PEAR > (any deader than it already is :P) it will simply unbundle it from > core. If you want to continue using it, then by all means do so. And > ignore the potential fact that composer/pi

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Davey Shafik
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 08/09/16 18:40, Larry Garfield wrote: > > Note: Whether that is a good trend or bad trend I will not claim, and > > that is largely irrelevant. But that is where the river is running, and > > trying to swim upstream against it is not going

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Lester Caine
On 08/09/16 18:40, Larry Garfield wrote: > Note: Whether that is a good trend or bad trend I will not claim, and > that is largely irrelevant. But that is where the river is running, and > trying to swim upstream against it is not going to be very effective. Trying to swim against the tide of M$

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Daniel Morris
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, at 05:21 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > Another couple of hours wasted, but I understand where things are now, > and basically the simple fact is that composer global mode is nothing of > the sort. The PHP_CodeSniffer composer install does not work and I > understand NOW why the Smar

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Larry Garfield
On 09/08/2016 11:21 AM, Lester Caine wrote: On 08/09/16 16:02, Dustin Wheeler wrote: In this way, you *can* install composer "binaries" to a global location that is accessible by default by normal users on your system. This was done on a CentOS 7 machine, but I am positive this can be equivalent

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Lester Caine
On 08/09/16 16:02, Dustin Wheeler wrote: > In this way, you *can* install composer "binaries" to a global > location that is accessible by default by normal users on your system. > This was done on a CentOS 7 machine, but I am positive this can be > equivalently applied to Windows or any environmen

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Dustin Wheeler
Hi Lester, > > Currently having followed the installation guide I have things working > on a home directory. This is probably what people expect today, but I > still expect tools to be available which ever login I use ... testing > different client profiles. > There are a few options, as I'm sure

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Daniel Morris
On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, at 01:13 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > That is the chicken ... if you ARE already composer user then it will > make some sense, but pear gives a phpcs -h which works out of the box. > ./vendor/bin/phpcs -h does not sound right as an alternative? And I > would expect different instal

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Rowan Collins
On 08/09/2016 15:13, Lester Caine wrote: bash: ./vendor/bin/phpcs: No such file or directory Which I presume means I do need to set up some path, but currently I no idea where 'composer global require "squizlabs/php_codesniffer=*"' has put it? That's the directory where it goes if you *don't* u

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Lester Caine
On 08/09/16 13:26, Niklas Keller wrote: > That is the chicken ... if you ARE already composer user then it will > make some sense, but pear gives a phpcs -h which works out of the box. > ./vendor/bin/phpcs -h does not sound right as an alternative? > > Why does it seem not right? It's

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Niklas Keller
2016-09-08 14:13 GMT+02:00 Lester Caine : > On 08/09/16 12:33, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > > On 08.09.2016 at 12:35, Lester Caine wrote: > > > >> On 08/09/16 09:24, Daniel Morris wrote: > >>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, at 09:07 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > I've just been through an exercise to give PH

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Lester Caine
On 08/09/16 12:33, Christoph M. Becker wrote: > On 08.09.2016 at 12:35, Lester Caine wrote: > >> On 08/09/16 09:24, Daniel Morris wrote: >>> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, at 09:07 AM, Lester Caine wrote: I've just been through an exercise to give PHP_CodeSniffer a go on my code base. I've not worr

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Deprecate PEAR/PECL & Replace withcomposer/pickle

2016-09-08 Thread Christoph M. Becker
On 08.09.2016 at 12:35, Lester Caine wrote: > On 08/09/16 09:24, Daniel Morris wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Sep 2016, at 09:07 AM, Lester Caine wrote: >>> I've just been through an exercise to give PHP_CodeSniffer a go on my >>> code base. I've not worried too much about that in the past since >>> Eclipse