On 26 August 2011 08:48, dukeofgaming dukeofgam...@gmail.com wrote:
Having current SVN-only contributors learn it might going to be quite a
challenge.
That's me. And I am VERY used to TortoiseSVN - a visual tool
integrated into Windows Explorer (not IE, but the filesystem exploring
tool for
there is the same for git. Even most IDEs have plugin for git support
these days. Lack of GUI is definitively not an argument.
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 August 2011 08:48, dukeofgaming dukeofgam...@gmail.com wrote:
Having current
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Richard Quadling rquadl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 August 2011 08:48, dukeofgaming dukeofgam...@gmail.com wrote:
Having current SVN-only contributors learn it might going to be quite a
challenge.
That's me. And I am VERY used to TortoiseSVN - a visual tool
Richard Quadling wrote:
Having current SVN-only contributors learn it might going to be quite a
challenge.
That's me. And I am VERY used to TortoiseSVN - a visual tool
integrated into Windows Explorer (not IE, but the filesystem exploring
tool for Windows).
I really don't want to have to work
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk writes:
Richard Quadling wrote:
Having current SVN-only contributors learn it might going to be quite a
challenge.
That's me. And I am VERY used to TortoiseSVN - a visual tool
integrated into Windows Explorer (not IE, but the filesystem exploring
tool for
I use CVS and SVN directly from Eclipse and I know exactly where you are
coming from. Currently this all runs transparently on all platforms and many
of the 'reasons' given for wanting to change are already supported by
additional tools _in_ Eclipse.
http://eclipse.org/egit/
There are several decent GUI's for git on the Mac side of things; Github has
even released their own guy.
http://www.git-tower.com/
http://mac.github.com/
http://gitx.frim.nl/
Git tower can be quirky, but you get used to it and the quirks make sense. I
haven't really heard much about mac github.
See inline.
Kiall
Sent from a mobile - sorry for being short!
On Aug 27, 2011 5:22 p.m., Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
Richard Quadling wrote:
Having current SVN-only contributors learn it might going to be quite a
challenge.
That's me. And I am VERY used to TortoiseSVN - a
Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
I use CVS and SVN directly from Eclipse and I know exactly where you are
coming from. Currently this all runs transparently on all platforms and many
of the 'reasons' given for wanting to change are already supported by
additional tools _in_ Eclipse.
David Muir wrote:
FWIW, PEAR is already moving to GitHub.
So who dictated that
There should at least be a little consistency in PHP and this is just another
example of everybody just doing what they want and sod the rest of us :(
--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
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On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
David Muir wrote:
FWIW, PEAR is already moving to GitHub.
So who dictated that
There should at least be a little consistency in PHP and this is just
another example of everybody just doing what they want and sod
The only think that worries me is that most of the time people choose the
service and not the tool.
On one hand you have Mercurial, a more than capable DVCS with the lowest
barrier of entry IMHO (you will love it while you learn it), and the very
good service that is Bitbucket, now kind of
If I could vote I'd vote for mercurial, but then again, I bet having PHP on
github will increase contributions very quickly.
which is pointless if we can't easily accept/merge the pull requests
from the github clone. :/
git itself is a powerful tool, but as AFAIK most of the people in this
Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
which is pointless if we can't easily accept/merge the pull requests
from the github clone. :/
You can very easily accept pull requests from GitHub even if you're not
working on GitHub.
e.g. I've been working on my own PHP fork, and have submitted a pull
request to the PHP
Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
- which vcs would you prefer to use for your current work on the php project
- which vcs will you continue to use what ever anybody else thinks you should be
using?
I'm running hg into github transparently for those projects that have already
jumped lemming like ... and
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:28 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
David Muir wrote:
FWIW, PEAR is already moving to GitHub.
So who dictated that
There should at least be a little consistency in PHP and this is
I'm fine with git and I think moving to something like that together
with up-to-date tools to contribute (or review patches etc.) will help a
lot.
But I would prefer to keep the (core) infrastructure at PHP internally.
It's just *so* much easier to integrate tools, add things like hooks for
the
Gwynne Raskind wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 19:03, David Soria Parrad...@php.net wrote:
Those wanting to use git and git workflows have a disadvantage when we stay
with SVN.
Choosing a VCS happens from time to time and sometimes your favorit is not
the winner.
I personally would love
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote:
On 8/24/11 2:03 PM, David Soria Parra wrote:
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be
explained in more detail, let me know.
I'm not sure choosing
On 25/08/11 11:15, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote:
On 8/24/11 2:03 PM, David Soria Parra wrote:
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be
explained in more detail, let me
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On 08/25/2011 11:28 AM, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 25/08/11 11:15, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: I agree, and I also think
that before people can make a choice they need to have played with
all the options.
On 25/08/11 11:37, David Soria Parra wrote:
On 08/25/2011 11:28 AM, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 25/08/11 11:15, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: I agree, and I also think
that before people can make a choice they need to have played with
all the options. Just
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On 08/25/2011 11:56 AM, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 25/08/11 11:37, David Soria Parra wrote:
On 08/25/2011 11:28 AM, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote:
On 25/08/11 11:15, Derick Rethans wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Stas Malyshev wrote: I agree, and I
I'm not familiar enough with Mercurial to properly vote, but am
guessing we'll move to Git. Git is popular because Github is
popular, and Github is popular because it's awesome.
But I think we should skip git.php.net and mirrors/bridges, and
simply move to Github. And this means people who
2011/8/24 David Soria Parra d...@php.net:
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be explained
in more detail, let me know.
I won't transfer the discussion over here but; I don't want to
If we do decide to make a VCS change the vote should be fairly one
sided for option of choice as this has a fairly broad impact on our
development process.
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 5:03 PM, David Soria Parra d...@php.net wrote:
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to
On 08/26/2011 04:12 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
2011/8/24 David Soria Parra d...@php.net:
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be explained
in more detail, let me know.
I won't
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be explained
in more detail, let me know.
Votes can be found here:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/dvcs/vote
The RFC can be found here:
Hi!
On 8/24/11 2:03 PM, David Soria Parra wrote:
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be explained
in more detail, let me know.
I'm not sure choosing DCVS by vote is actually a good way
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On 08/24/2011 11:15 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
On 8/24/11 2:03 PM, David Soria Parra wrote:
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting
on the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote:
Hi!
On 8/24/11 2:03 PM, David Soria Parra wrote:
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be explained
in
On 2011-08-24, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com
wrote:
Hi!
On 8/24/11 2:03 PM, David Soria Parra wrote:
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. ??If you
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote:
Hi!
On 8/24/11 2:03 PM, David Soria Parra wrote:
Hi Internals,,
after 3 weeks of discussion, I think we are ready to start voting on
the DVCS RFC. If you think something is missing or should be explained
in
David Soria Parra wrote:
I'm not sure choosing DCVS by vote is actually a good way to go here.
I think we need much more input from people that maintain all the
infrastructure we're using now and would be doing the move. If we
don't have people committed to making it happen majority-based
On 2011-08-24, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
David Soria Parra wrote:
I'm not sure choosing DCVS by vote is actually a good way to go here.
I think we need much more input from people that maintain all the
infrastructure we're using now and would be doing the move. If we
don't
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 19:03, David Soria Parra d...@php.net wrote:
Those wanting to use git and git workflows have a disadvantage when we stay
with SVN.
Choosing a VCS happens from time to time and sometimes your favorit is not
the winner.
I personally would love to see PHP moving to hg,
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