Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Michael Walter
What do you mean? Regards, Michael On 8/10/06, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Michael, hwat are you doing there? You turn any new oop feature as oh php 5 into a joke. What do you aim at? Thursday, August 10, 2006, 12:02:09 PM, you wrote: > Hi, > right now, PHP triggers

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Michael, this is the expected behavior. But we migth as well simply remove all those modifiers. That would be much better then providing them in a senseless manner. regards marcus Thursday, August 10, 2006, 12:02:09 PM, you wrote: > Hi, > right now, PHP triggers fatal errors e.g. when

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Pierre
Hello, On 8/10/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > > On 10-Aug-06, at 9:35 AM, Michael Walter wrote: > > > What do you feel is incorrect about allowing mentioned errors to be > > handled in userspace? > > My feeling is that errors such as

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Derick Rethans
On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Ilia Alshanetsky wrote: > > On 10-Aug-06, at 9:35 AM, Michael Walter wrote: > > > What do you feel is incorrect about allowing mentioned errors to be > > handled in userspace? > > My feeling is that errors such as visibility violations should be addressed > during debugging

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Unknown W. Brackets
In the past, many softwares have used an error handler function to provide the following cases: 1. Log the error in a more complicated way than PHP does by default. 2. Send off an email, if necessary, or communicate with another service. 3. Show a generic (e.g. a 500) error message to the client

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
On 10-Aug-06, at 6:02 AM, Michael Walter wrote: Hi, right now, PHP triggers fatal errors e.g. when accessing private members or calling nonexistant functions. Since this is problematic for obvious reasons, what technical reasons are there for that behavior, and is there a chance that this beha

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Ilia Alshanetsky
On 10-Aug-06, at 9:35 AM, Michael Walter wrote: What do you feel is incorrect about allowing mentioned errors to be handled in userspace? My feeling is that errors such as visibility violations should be addressed during debugging and Q&A phase where simple error logging will be sufficien

Re: [PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Michael Walter
What do you feel is incorrect about allowing mentioned errors to be handled in userspace? Regards, Michael On 8/10/06, Ilia Alshanetsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10-Aug-06, at 6:02 AM, Michael Walter wrote: > Hi, > > right now, PHP triggers fatal errors e.g. when accessing private > membe

[PHP-DEV] Fatal errors

2006-08-10 Thread Michael Walter
Hi, right now, PHP triggers fatal errors e.g. when accessing private members or calling nonexistant functions. Since this is problematic for obvious reasons, what technical reasons are there for that behavior, and is there a chance that this behaviour will change in a future release? Regards, Mi