[PHP-DEV] Internals and Newcomers and the Sidelines (WAS: Adopt Code of Conduct)

2016-01-11 Thread John Bafford
[Apologies for the re-post; I’m re-sending this with a new subject because it’s really not about the CoC RFC.] > On Jan 11, 2016, at 19:40, François Laupretre wrote: > > If we want to deal with the reasons why people avoid internals, the let's go > and analyze the problem first ? I will start

Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals and Newcomers and the Sidelines (WAS: Adopt Code of Conduct)

2016-01-12 Thread Johannes Schlüter
On Mon, 2016-01-11 at 22:46 -0500, John Bafford wrote: > So let's say, hypothetically, internals actually, seriously, wants > newcomers. Back in the days when I was more active when teaching newcomers internals in articles and conferences I typically pointed them to pecl-dev for the first discus

Re: [PHP-DEV] Internals and Newcomers and the Sidelines (WAS: Adopt Code of Conduct)

2016-01-13 Thread Paul M. Jones
Hi all, > On Jan 12, 2016, at 17:07, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > Out of 45 approved RFC, 34 would have cleared a 90% bar, 35 would have > cleared an 85% bar, and 38 would have cleared a 75% bar. > > To the best of my recollection, all of the RFCs that generated major storms > fall in the these 7