[PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-15 Thread Manuel Vázquez Acosta
[Is this the right news?] Recently I downloaded PHP 5.0.0 and read the RFCs, I sadly noticed that a Namespace proposal was declined. Why? I've been using PHP for many years and I've found problems when trying to "glue" several third parties codes. PEAR has come with a not-quite-nice solution to t

Re: [PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-15 Thread Zeev Suraski
Please read the archives! Zeev At 18:55 15/08/2004, Manuel Vázquez Acosta wrote: [Is this the right news?] Recently I downloaded PHP 5.0.0 and read the RFCs, I sadly noticed that a Namespace proposal was declined. Why? I've been using PHP for many years and I've found problems when trying to "glue"

Re: [PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-16 Thread Justin Hannus
Zeev, I too have been searching the archives for subjects on 'namespace' and found allot of back and forth opinions on it but not a real summary about its conclusion. Basically, I have allot of code at work still in php4 that that uses it own class importing mechanism than just include|require[_on

Re: [PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-16 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Justin, Monday, August 16, 2004, 4:08:46 PM, you wrote: > Zeev, > I too have been searching the archives for subjects on 'namespace' and found > allot of back and forth opinions on it but not a real summary about its > conclusion. Basically, I have allot of code at work still in php4 that

Re: [PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-16 Thread Justin Hannus
Thanks. I figured as much but when I implemented this the terms 'Namespace' and 'import' just sounded so sexy to me. -Justin "Marcus Boerger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hello Justin, > > Monday, August 16, 2004, 4:08:46 PM, you wrote: > > > Zeev, > > > I too ha

Re: [PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-16 Thread Manuel Vázquez Acosta
> There's a good chance that later PHP versions (maybe 5.2 or 6 or whatever) > have something like namespaces or packages which require at least the > keyword 'import'. That's an example for the reason i never use names that > are used as keywords in other languages. > That sounds like good news!

Re: [PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-17 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 21:06 16/08/2004, Marcus Boerger wrote: Hello Justin, Monday, August 16, 2004, 4:08:46 PM, you wrote: > Zeev, > I too have been searching the archives for subjects on 'namespace' and found > allot of back and forth opinions on it but not a real summary about its > conclusion. Basically, I have

Re: [PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-17 Thread Justin Hannus
> I don't see how it could change in the future, but that's > just my 2c :) Thanks, thats all I was really looking for. The status of the terms, cause if they're not being reserved then I would like to continue using them -- at my own risk. As Marcus points out, its might not be the best idea to i

Re: [PHP-DEV] On Namespaces...

2004-08-18 Thread Al Baker
I would just like to echo some concerns on namespaces. I've pioneered the adoption of PHP in some enterprise development groups at Avaya, and it's been adopted on the merits of the fastest and easiest tool for web interface development. Every now and then someone duplicates a class name and mutte