[PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3 Released!

2003-12-22 Thread Andi Gutmans
Dear PHP users, PHP 5.0.0 Beta 3 has been released. Many bugs have been fixed since Beta 2, some of which aren't mentioned in the NEWS file (which you can find at the end of this email). The PHP 5.0 source tree will now enter a feature freeze and we are moving into bug fixing mode, therefore, w

[PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3 RC2

2003-12-19 Thread Andi Gutmans
Hey, Please grab RC2 from http://snaps.php.net/~andi. I hope the critical problem we were having is solved now. There are still some open engine bugs which need to be fixed but they aren't critical. Please let me know if there are any showstoppers. If not I'll post it tomorrow. Also, please don'

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-13 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 11:03 AM 11/13/2003 +, Wez Furlong wrote: > > 2. session support for internal classes. should we have a Serializable > >interface which classes inherit, or have sleep and wakeup > > handlers in the zend_object_handlers structure ? > > I guess it's possible. In most cases I think

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-13 Thread Wez Furlong
> > 2. session support for internal classes. should we have a Serializable > >interface which classes inherit, or have sleep and wakeup > > handlers in the zend_object_handlers structure ? > > I guess it's possible. In most cases I think internal classes won't be > serialized though, su

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-13 Thread Zak Greant
On Nov 12, 2003, at 16:14, Olivier Hill wrote: Wez Furlong wrote: That would be illegal. Yup.. unless PHP would be OSI certified? Version 3 of the PHP license is OSI certified now. :) Or have a license exception from MySQL, which is slow to obtain. The license exception is being reviewed by the F

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-13 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Georg Richter wrote: > There was already a feature freeze for 4.1.x, but on Internal Developer > Meeting this week in Bordeaux we decided to add 2 more functions for multi > query support and profiling. When this is done (Monty told me to add it this > week) packaging for the

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-13 Thread Georg Richter
Hi, > > There's going to be zero public testing of this extension when people > need to: > > 1) Install BitKeeper (which I can't even do on my Mac OS X) > 2) Upgrade to autoconf 2.5.3 > 3) Upgrade to Automake 1.5 > 4) Upgrade to Libtool 1.4 > 5) Upgrade to Bison 1.7.5 > > If they want to build MyS

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 12:22 AM 11/13/2003 -0500, l0t3k wrote: Two things that need fixing : 1. support for class constants for internal classes. Christiano has already posted a patch. I applied his patch. As I told him I don't think persistent internal classes across requests will be supported with all the bells

[PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread l0t3k
Two things that need fixing : 1. support for class constants for internal classes. Christiano has already posted a patch. 2. session support for internal classes. should we have a Serializable interface which classes inherit, or have sleep and wakeup handlers in the zend_object_hand

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
Sorry. I was unclear. I don't want to actually bundle MySQL. I'm familiar with *that* discussion. I want to #ifdef out the parts of the mysqli extension code that use features added by MySQL, AB into 4.1 tree *after* their packaged "alpha" release. Since the current version of mysqli uses these fe

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Andi Gutmans
At 11:14 AM 11/12/2003 -0500, Olivier Hill wrote: Wez Furlong wrote: That would be illegal. Yup.. unless PHP would be OSI certified? PHP is OSI certified. Andi Or have a license exception from MySQL, which is slow to obtain. Oliver -- GB/E/IT d+ s+:+ a-- C++$ UL$ P L+++$ E- W++$ N- ?o ?K

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Wez Furlong
> Yup.. unless PHP would be OSI certified? http://opensource.org/licenses/php.php > Or have a license exception from MySQL, which is slow to obtain. This is the problem right now. --Wez. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Olivier Hill
Wez Furlong wrote: That would be illegal. Yup.. unless PHP would be OSI certified? Or have a license exception from MySQL, which is slow to obtain. Oliver -- GB/E/IT d+ s+:+ a-- C++$ UL$ P L+++$ E- W++$ N- ?o ?K w--(---) !O M+$ V- PS+ PE- Y PGP t++ 5-- X+@ R- tv++ b++(+++) DI D+ G++

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Wez Furlong
That would be illegal. > If we're rushing to release, can we at least bundle a version of > mysqli that can work with the 4.1-alpha download packages on > MySQL.com? -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Adam Maccabee Trachtenberg
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Andi Gutmans wrote: > So I suggest the following, let's kick ourselves in the tush, aim for Beta > 3 on the 30th of November, and hopefully after that we can do a feature > freeze and go into bug fixing only mode. We can re-evaluate this date as we > get closer in case people

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread George Schlossnagle
On Nov 12, 2003, at 3:42 AM, Stig S. Bakken wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:57, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: Andi Gutmans wrote: It's not as if the Java one is a very feasible extension to use in production environments because it's slooo and heavy. I agree. But I think people might "yell"

AW: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Wolfgang Drews
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Hi Derek, > I would suggest starting a mailing list or some such for the > admins of php community websites, where you guys can write up > small explanations and lists of your changes that make it to cvs. started this one

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >Andi Gutmans wrote: >> It's not as if the Java one is a very feasible extension to use in >> production environments because it's slooo and heavy. > > I agree. But I think people might "yell" at us because when remove > functionality from P

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Derek Ford
__ And - maybe Zend can help here - to enforce the communication of php5 and it's features (i.e. pay some good people to write an extra-column on zend-website, php-website and wellknow php-portals around the world, introducing STEP

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Stig S. Bakken
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 08:57, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: > Andi Gutmans wrote: > > It's not as if the Java one is a very feasible extension to use in > > production environments because it's slooo and heavy. > > I agree. But I think people might "yell" at us because when remove > functio

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Andi Gutmans wrote: > It's not as if the Java one is a very feasible extension to use in > production environments because it's slooo and heavy. I agree. But I think people might "yell" at us because when remove functionality from PHP 4 to PHP 5. -- Sebastian Bergmann http://sebastia

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Marcus Boerger
Hello Andi, Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 8:12:33 AM, you wrote: > Guys (n' Girls), > I think there was a lot of good and positive talk in the past few emails. > Let me summarize: > a) There are still people who have to fix some of their extension and are > actually working on them. These fixes

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Frank M. Kromann
+1. I have a few classes written for php4 that does'nt work with the current cvs version of php5. I'm trying to reduce the code to be as small as possible but still showing the errors/bugs. I guess I have to speed up that process :-) - Frank > Guys (n' Girls), > > I think there was a lot of go

[PHP-DEV] PHP 5 Beta 3

2003-11-12 Thread Andi Gutmans
Guys (n' Girls), I think there was a lot of good and positive talk in the past few emails. Let me summarize: a) There are still people who have to fix some of their extension and are actually working on them. These fixes should definitely be in PHP 5 and the RC. b) There are people who are workin