Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/11/14 09:37, Joe Watkins wrote: > On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 09:19 +, Lester Caine wrote: >> On 04/11/14 06:00, Joe Watkins wrote: >>> I'm not saying we should not extend the features of phpdbg, but, we >>> should do it knowing what it actually is, knowing that it is >>> fundamentally differen

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-04 Thread Joe Watkins
On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 09:19 +, Lester Caine wrote: > On 04/11/14 06:00, Joe Watkins wrote: > > I'm not saying we should not extend the features of phpdbg, but, we > > should do it knowing what it actually is, knowing that it is > > fundamentally different to xdebug. > > Having just hit another

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-04 Thread Lester Caine
On 04/11/14 06:00, Joe Watkins wrote: > I'm not saying we should not extend the features of phpdbg, but, we > should do it knowing what it actually is, knowing that it is > fundamentally different to xdebug. Having just hit another 'white screen' problem on a site I'm trying to update, I do wonder

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-03 Thread Joe Watkins
On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 21:03 +, Derick Rethans wrote: > Hi, > > This is based on an email conversation between Joe Watkins and me. I > asked him > what the original scope of phpdbg was, and I've summarized his reply > here: > > - PHPDBG was originally envisioned as a "gdb" for the Zend VM, w

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-03 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > - PHPDBG was originally envisioned as a "gdb" for the Zend VM, with gdb > like commands to debug, and step through code. That was also my impression when the RFC was discussed. Now, I do not object in principle on growing the scope of phpdbg. But this needs to be done the right way if it'

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-03 Thread Dan Ackroyd
Hi, Derick wrote: > I asked him what the original scope of phpdbg was,... > And I very much agree that the above bullet points, The original scope of a project and what it should be in the future are not related always related. Please don't pretend that they're the same thing. Derick wrote: > I'

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-03 Thread Bob Weinand
> Am 03.11.2014 um 22:03 schrieb Derick Rethans : > > Hi, > > This is based on an email conversation between Joe Watkins and me. I > asked him > what the original scope of phpdbg was, and I've summarized his reply > here: > > - PHPDBG was originally envisioned as a "gdb" for the Zend VM, with

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-03 Thread Florian Margaine
Hi, Why should phpdbg scope be limited, and not extended? As far as I know, xdebug is nowhere like an official php project, so overlap shouldn't be an issue. I'm not saying phpdbg has to be extended, but I'm wondering why it should be limited. Regards, On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Derick Re

[PHP-DEV] PHPDBG scope

2014-11-03 Thread Derick Rethans
Hi, This is based on an email conversation between Joe Watkins and me. I asked him what the original scope of phpdbg was, and I've summarized his reply here: - PHPDBG was originally envisioned as a "gdb" for the Zend VM, with gdb like commands to debug, and step through code. - Support for b