[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-28 Thread Aziz Saleh
On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Walter Parker wrote: > On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Rene Veerman < > rene.veerman.netherla...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > noted, and sorry about confusing it, but can we rest this discussion > here? > > i dont wanna clog up the thread any further.. > > > > > > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-28 Thread Walter Parker
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Rene Veerman < rene.veerman.netherla...@gmail.com> wrote: > noted, and sorry about confusing it, but can we rest this discussion here? > i dont wanna clog up the thread any further.. > > > Before you go, two observations: First, your website doesn't actually appea

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Joshua Kehn
On 27 Aug 2016, at 21:42, Rene Veerman wrote: i did notice the -jk (meaning u were joking).. but i really dont appreciate trolling on subjects as fundamental (and to me at least; important), ok.. “JK” is my initials. I was not joking. However, your obvious failure to understand domain resp

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread German Geek
Another thing sort of related to consider is HTTP2. Instead of concatenating all scripts to one, it seems to be a much better and performant solution. See https://youtu.be/G62aCRIlONU . On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 at 14:57 Rene Veerman < rene.veerman.netherla...@gmail.com> wrote: > noted, and sorry abou

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Rene Veerman
noted, and sorry about confusing it, but can we rest this discussion here? i dont wanna clog up the thread any further.. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:52 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > 2016-08-28 3:42 GMT+02:00 Rene Veerman >: > > i did notice the -jk (meaning u were joking).. but i really dont

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Kalle Sommer Nielsen
2016-08-28 3:42 GMT+02:00 Rene Veerman : > i did notice the -jk (meaning u were joking).. but i really dont appreciate > trolling on subjects as fundamental (and to me at least; important), ok.. "JK" is his initials, "Joshua Kehn". Please be careful when posting and make sure you read over message

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Rene Veerman
i did notice the -jk (meaning u were joking).. but i really dont appreciate trolling on subjects as fundamental (and to me at least; important), ok.. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Joshua Kehn wrote: > On 27 Aug 2016, at 21:26, Rene Veerman wrote: > > From: Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Rene Veerman
with all due respect, you sound like you don't know what you're talking about ok.. i rest my case at the arguments i presented, confident it'll convince the internals team (which is what this is *about*, ok).. On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:37 AM, Joshua Kehn wrote: > On 27 Aug 2016, at 21:26, Rene V

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Rene Veerman
fiiine, i dont wanna get booted off the list.. ;) yea, with the long var names i use and the obfuscator knocking that down to 3 letter each.. should be sweet :) i'll probably continue on wednesday, when i've installed my new SSD.. right now runtime for obfuscation of what needs to work (my own so

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Joshua Kehn
On 27 Aug 2016, at 21:26, Rene Veerman wrote: From: Ashley Sheridan Date: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching To: Rene Veerman Please don't top-post. Nginx was probably suggested as a lightweight web server, instead of Apache. I can't say I've ever

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Joshua Kehn
On 27 Aug 2016, at 20:50, Rene Veerman wrote: 500Kb of the JS is my framework (which does a lot, you can see it when the new encryption is done..).. another 500Kb is things like the full sourcecode for jQuery.. so thanks, i'll use the minified jQuery in the next update.. :) Lugging around 500

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Aziz Saleh
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Rene Veerman < rene.veerman.netherla...@gmail.com> wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Ashley Sheridan > Date: Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 3:03 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching > To: Rene Veerman > > > Please don't top-post. >

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Rene Veerman
500Kb of the JS is my framework (which does a lot, you can see it when the new encryption is done..).. another 500Kb is things like the full sourcecode for jQuery.. so thanks, i'll use the minified jQuery in the next update.. :) On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 2:45 AM, Aziz Saleh wrote: > > > On Sat, Au

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Aziz Saleh
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > > On 28 August 2016 01:31:50 BST, Rene Veerman gmail.com> wrote: > >On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Joshua Kehn > >wrote: > > > >> Apache handles gzipping just fine. http://httpd.apache.org/ > >> docs/current/mod/mod_deflate.html > >>

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On 28 August 2016 01:31:50 BST, Rene Veerman wrote: >On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Joshua Kehn >wrote: > >> Apache handles gzipping just fine. http://httpd.apache.org/ >> docs/current/mod/mod_deflate.html >> >> and my PHP handles static file serving only when needed, when >evaluating >> con

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Rene Veerman
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 9:36 PM, Joshua Kehn wrote: > Apache handles gzipping just fine. http://httpd.apache.org/ > docs/current/mod/mod_deflate.html > > and my PHP handles static file serving only when needed, when evaluating > content and js for specific URLs > > > I'm not sure why that would b

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Joshua Kehn
Apache handles gzipping just fine. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/mod_deflate.html > and my PHP handles static file serving only when needed, when evaluating > content and js for specific URLs I'm not sure why that would be required. Why doesn't the HTML reference the assets required

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Rene Veerman
yea ok.. "something upstream".. is that nginx easy to stack above / next to / under apache2? i'm really used to apache2.. and for noobish developers it might be very convenient to add this to php readfile() afterall.. and my PHP handles static file serving only when needed, when evaluating content

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Joshua Kehn
Why is PHP handling static file serving? This is squarely outside of it's domain. Have nginx or something upstream handle gzipping content. --jk > On Aug 27, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Rene Veerman > wrote: > > eh no, i'm a big fan of caching output in js / json cache files :) > but those still need

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Rene Veerman
eh no, i'm a big fan of caching output in js / json cache files :) but those still need to get gzipped... not just my main JS file, also my photoalbum contents -> another 1Mb of JSON content... On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > > > On 27 August 2016 17:52:48 BST, Rene Vee

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP] feature request : gzip caching

2016-08-27 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On 27 August 2016 17:52:48 BST, Rene Veerman wrote: >Hi.. > >First off, i love PHP. Many thanks for keeping it free too. > >However, i've noticed that gzipping the 1Mb of javascript that my >seductiveapps.com needs, takes a relatively long time (measured over a >total page load time which i'd l

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-13 Thread Richard Lynch
On Fri, April 13, 2007 12:08 pm, Andrew Hutchings wrote: >> Especially because a lot people use shared hosting these days, and >> that means that they all run on the same apache. and so they would >> share the same "application variables". So if person a & b both >> install the same script on a dif

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-13 Thread Tijnema !
On 4/13/07, Oliver Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Freitag, 13. April 2007 15:46 schrieb Tijnema !: > I think that will screw up some things, for example when using 2 the > same scripts, on the same apache, but on different locations. It does not screw up things with session variables. The d

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-13 Thread Oliver Block
Am Freitag, 13. April 2007 15:46 schrieb Tijnema !: > I think that will screw up some things, for example when using 2 the > same scripts, on the same apache, but on different locations. It does not screw up things with session variables. The difference between session variables and application v

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-13 Thread Andrew Hutchings
Tijnema ! wrote: > Especially because a lot people use shared hosting these days, and > that means that they all run on the same apache. and so they would > share the same "application variables". So if person a & b both > install the same script on a different domain. They would work like 1 > scr

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-13 Thread Tijnema !
On 4/13/07, Andrew Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tijnema ! wrote: > On 4/12/07, Oliver Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2007 06:34 schrieb Andrew Hutchings: >> > Isn't that what a database is for (e.g. MySQL)? >> >> No. - It's that what a symbol table is for.:-)

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-13 Thread Andrew Hutchings
Tijnema ! wrote: > On 4/12/07, Oliver Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2007 06:34 schrieb Andrew Hutchings: >> > Isn't that what a database is for (e.g. MySQL)? >> >> No. - It's that what a symbol table is for.:-) >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Oliver > > You simply could cr

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-12 Thread Tijnema !
On 4/12/07, Oliver Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2007 06:34 schrieb Andrew Hutchings: > Isn't that what a database is for (e.g. MySQL)? No. - It's that what a symbol table is for.:-) Best Regards, Oliver You simply could create a table with 2 columns 'key' and 'va

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-12 Thread Oliver Block
Am Donnerstag, 12. April 2007 06:34 schrieb Andrew Hutchings: > Isn't that what a database is for (e.g. MySQL)? No. - It's that what a symbol table is for.:-) Best Regards, Oliver -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

[PHP-DEV] Re: php feature

2007-04-11 Thread Andrew Hutchings
Oliver Block wrote: > Hello, > > did you ever discuss a feature like 'application variables'? What I mean is > that a bunch of scripts builds a logic application which is e.g. able to > share variables. While session variables can be used to store values between > script files for a single use