Re: Anycast Addresses being used for Nodes not just Routers; anycast as Source IP address

2002-05-14 Thread Erik Nordmark
Brian, 1. Host-to-router notification protocol (this is taken care of by changes to mld proposed in draft-haberman-ipngwg-host-anycast) 2. Security: at a minimum some form of authentication to allow routers to determine if hosts are allowed to join an anycast

Re: Stateless DNS discovery draft

2002-05-14 Thread Erik Nordmark
Steve, I think this is a very good writeup, but it's missing the security considerations section :-)/2 Thinking for 5 minutes about intermediaries vs. not and security it isn't obvious to me that one is better than the other. A few points: - A solution with an intermediary requires on the

Re: Anycast Addresses being used for Nodes not just Routers; anycast as Source IP address

2002-05-14 Thread Brian Haberman
Erik, Erik Nordmark wrote: Brian, 1. Host-to-router notification protocol (this is taken care of by changes to mld proposed in draft-haberman-ipngwg-host-anycast) 2. Security: at a minimum some form of authentication to allow routers to determine if hosts

Re: Changes to MLD to support Anycast

2002-05-14 Thread Brian Haberman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - node with anycast address(*) participating routing exchange pros: deployable now, routing protocol has mechanisms for protecting against malicious route injection (sometimes they are just use IPsec...) cons: some

Re: Stateless DNS discovery draft

2002-05-14 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Nordm ark writes: Steve, I think this is a very good writeup, but it's missing the security considerations section :-)/2 Thinking for 5 minutes about intermediaries vs. not and security it isn't obvious to me that one is better than the other. A few points:

Re: Review comments on IPv6 for Second and Third Generation Cellu lar Hosts

2002-05-14 Thread Thomas Narten
[playing catchup] Does this (paraphrased) assessment seem correct? I wouldn't want 3GPP to mandate a behaviour that they would believe contributed to identity privacy but, based on some other procedure, did not. = But the person tracking would have to know that the host

RE: Review comments on IPv6 for Second and Third Generation Cellu lar Hosts

2002-05-14 Thread john . loughney
Hi Thomas, Does this (paraphrased) assessment seem correct? I wouldn't want 3GPP to mandate a behaviour that they would believe contributed to identity privacy but, based on some other procedure, did not. = But the person tracking would have to know that the

Re: Review comments on IPv6 for Second and Third Generation Cellu lar Hosts

2002-05-14 Thread Thomas Narten
With regards to this, I think we came to agreement on new text for the section, something that would look like this: I'm OK with this. My comment was really more to do with this: I saw a privacy comment in the past (sorry, can't source the original author) that suggested that because

Re: Anycast Addresses being used for Nodes not just Routers; anycast as Source IP address

2002-05-14 Thread Erik Nordmark
Actually, I will have to let on to a little secret. I have been looking at an option for anycast that looks strikingly similar to the Home Address option in MIPv6. The idea is that a server responding to an anycast query will put the anycast address in this option and its own unicast

Re: Stateless DNS discovery draft

2002-05-14 Thread Erik Nordmark
Yes and no, and a lot depends on the trust relationships between seeker S, intermediary I, and target T. And whether or not N*M is a significant issue depends on the relative values of N and M, and the frequency of contact. The latter is easier to see. If a member of set S has

Re: Anycast Addresses being used for Nodes not just Routers; anycast as Source IP address

2002-05-14 Thread Brian Haberman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I will have to let on to a little secret. I have been looking at an option for anycast that looks strikingly similar to the Home Address option in MIPv6. The idea is that a server responding to an anycast query will put the anycast address in this

Re: Stateless DNS discovery draft

2002-05-14 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Erik Nordm ark writes: Yes and no, and a lot depends on the trust relationships between seeker S, intermediary I, and target T. And whether or not N*M is a significant issue depends on the relative values of N and M, and the frequency of contact. The