Nomcom call for volunteers

2002-08-27 Thread Phil Roberts
The members of the IESG and IAB and the IETF chair are selected by a nominations committee made up of volunteers from the IETF community. The nominations committee is now in the process of being formed and volunteers are being accepted until Sep 6. Please see (http://www.ietf.org/nomcom/msg19765

RE: [mobile-ip] Re: HAO and BE processing will be mandated

2002-07-23 Thread Phil Roberts
Folks, this discussion doesn't seem to be going anywhere at the point. Perhaps we can drop it? The decision of MUST/SHOULD is up to the working group to recommend in its spec, and Jari will reflect that decision when he produces the final spec. The consensus that has been recorded so fa

RE: summary of HAO, BE processing discussion

2002-07-17 Thread Phil Roberts
When the next version of the draft is issued, incorporating all the agreed resolutions of WG last call comments, we'll post a note to the ipng mailing list summarizing the requirements that the MIP WG is recommending. Phil > -Original Message- > From: Jari Arkko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [mobile-ip] Re: HAO and BE processing will be mandated

2002-07-17 Thread Phil Roberts
A few issues have become mingled here. 1) Keiichi and others have raised the issue of MUST support for HAO and BE processing and have proposed a solution that allows communication to happen between any two nodes with clarification in the MIP spec of properly handling the ICMP errors returned. 2)

RE: Updating draft-ietf-ipv6-cellular-host-00.txt?

2002-03-06 Thread Phil Roberts
> >That could be one way forward. What would the downside to this be? > > I've tried to explain this in other messages, but I don't > think that my reasons are coming across... > > If we publish this document as "informational" now, I think we > all agree that the 3GPP community will treat thi

RE: Applicability of draft-ietf-ipv6-cellular-host-00.txt

2002-03-05 Thread Phil Roberts
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Applicability of draft-ietf-ipv6-cellular-host-00.txt > > > Hi Phil, > > There will be m

RE: Applicability of draft-ietf-ipv6-cellular-host-00.txt

2002-03-05 Thread Phil Roberts
> > > BTW: Does 1) include the ability to run e.g. Java applets or > > other downloadable code? > > I think we would clasify it as closed, no applets or > downloadable code. Hmmm. I think you've excluded a large number (the majority) of the kinds of devices that you'd like to be giving guid

RE: Should connecting to the Internet be Optional?

2002-03-05 Thread Phil Roberts
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 4:15 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Should connecting to the Internet be Optional? > > > Hi Phil, > > > May

RE: Should connecting to the Internet be Optional?

2002-03-05 Thread Phil Roberts
Sure. "For the purposes of this document, a cellular host is considered to be a terminal that uses an air interface to connect to a cellular access network (i.e. GPRS, UMTS, CDMA2000) in order to provide IPv6 connectivity to an IP network." As others have pointed out it's hard to be

RE: Updating draft-ietf-ipv6-cellular-host-00.txt?

2002-03-05 Thread Phil Roberts
> > I don't think we should. It just starts us down that > slippery slope of creating new "foo hosts" requirements docs. > Your following arguments are reason enough to avoid this path. Agree we shouldn't. > > > > > If so, how can we prevent the two most likely bad outcomes: > > > >

RE: Should connecting to the Internet be Optional?

2002-03-04 Thread Phil Roberts
> > If WLAN works differently from a cellular interface then it > needs separate consideration (maybe another draft). So this > draft wouldn't apply to interfaces for which cellular > requirements are not meaningful. But I'm not sure that > defining multiple technology hosts is the most urge

RE: Should connecting to the Internet be Optional?

2002-03-04 Thread Phil Roberts
> -Original Message- > From: Karim El-Malki (ERA) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 3:14 PM > To: 'Phil Roberts'; 'Tony Hain'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Should connecting to the Internet be Optional? > > >

RE: Should connecting to the Internet be Optional?

2002-03-04 Thread Phil Roberts
Well, this needs to be spelled out in some detail then. I'm already mentally thinking of PocketPC kinds of devices whenever I here cellular hosts > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 2:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Should connecting to the Internet be Optional?

2002-03-04 Thread Phil Roberts
Having read through this thread now, might it be better to recast this document more along the lines of functions supported on the cellular interface rather than requirements for host? Some substantial number of devices for which this is targeted will be dual network interface capable and for th

RE: draft-ietf-ipv6-cellular-host-00.txt -> wg last call?

2002-03-04 Thread Phil Roberts
I'm a little bit concerned about the mobility sections of this doc. It recommends supporting two drafts that are far from complete in the MIP working group (HMIP and fast handovers) and where it's hard to say exactly how those drafts will dome out. I'm also not sure how fast handovers would be

RE: Proxy announcement !

2001-07-10 Thread Phil Roberts
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 12:31 PM > To: 'Phil Roberts'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Proxy announcement ! > > > Hi Phil, > > I'm not an "official" author of the draft but let me > address a couple of your points below

RE: Proxy announcement !

2001-07-05 Thread Phil Roberts
Hi, I have a bunch of comments on the document inline which I'll send to the authors offlist to avoid clutter. But I have some general comments for the list. Something like this is definitely needed and for multiple purposes so good job for making a start of it. 1. What is the intention of t