Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Joseph D. H arwood" writes: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >--=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0A245.80C7E140 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >My understanding of the draft was that, one of the g

Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-05 Thread Kais Belgaied
First, I a gree with S Kent, J. Hardwood and S. Bellovin on the ESP tunnel mode (Thank y'all). I shall update the draft to reflect the the 2 possibilities, AH (+ESP) in transport mode, and tunnel mode ESP with the label on the h-b-h of the inner header. > >>>it. In a link-local scope, where th

RE: Label on the H-b-H (was Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6. )

2001-03-05 Thread Joseph D. Harwood
PROTECTED] > Subject: Label on the H-b-H (was Re: Internet Draft for explicit > security labels in IPv6. ) > > > For a router to trust a label in the hop-by-hop header, it has to either > *believe* the packet is authentic (packet coming in through an interface > connected to a hi

Label on the H-b-H (was Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6. )

2001-03-05 Thread Kais Belgaied
For a router to trust a label in the hop-by-hop header, it has to either *believe* the packet is authentic (packet coming in through an interface connected to a highly secured network), or it is the other end (dst) of an AH AS protecting the labeled packet. Here is an example: Secure (trus

RE: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-05 Thread Joseph D. Harwood
7:18 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6. > > > Greetings, > > IPv4 had IPSO and CIPSO for labeling of packets assuming we're operating > within the premises of a trusted infrastructure. > I

Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-05 Thread Kais Belgaied
>>It mandates a guarantee that the label on the IPv6 is authentic before trustin >>g >>it. In a link-local scope, where the label is proposed to be carried in the >>destination header, ESP is mandatory and sufficient. >>On a wider scope, AH is necessary. > >Or it could be bound to the certificate

RE: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-05 Thread Joseph D. Harwood
; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 11:27 AM > To: Kais Belgaied > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6. > > > In message <[EMAIL PR

RE: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-05 Thread Kais Belgaied
18 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6. >> >> >> Greetings, >> >> IPv4 had IPSO and CIPSO for labeling of packets assuming we're operating >> within the premises of

Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-05 Thread Kais Belgaied
Greetings, IPv4 had IPSO and CIPSO for labeling of packets assuming we're operating within the premises of a trusted infrastructure. IPv6 only has the implicit labeling by having different IPsec SAs convey different labels. We think there is a need to have explicit labels in IPv6, whether or not

Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-02 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve, but: - The assumption in the draft seems to be that SA's are heavy-weight objects. this is not the case and it is certainly my intent to ensure that they are as lightweight as possible within Sun's ipsec implementation.. - I agree with what St

Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kais Belgaied writes: >>>It mandates a guarantee that the label on the IPv6 is authentic before trust >in >>>g >>>it. In a link-local scope, where the label is proposed to be carried in the >>>destination header, ESP is mandatory and sufficient. >>>On a wider scope,

Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-01 Thread Stephen Kent
Kais, >Greetings, > >IPv4 had IPSO and CIPSO for labeling of packets assuming we're operating >within the premises of a trusted infrastructure. >IPv6 only has the implicit labeling by having different IPsec SAs convey >different labels. >We think there is a need to have explicit labels in IPv6, w

Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Joseph D. H arwood" writes: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >--=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0A245.80C7E140 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >My understanding of the draft was that, one of the g

Re: Internet Draft for explicit security labels in IPv6.

2001-03-01 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
vesta-corp.com > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kais Belgaied > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:18 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: