Re: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Dan Lanciani
Markku Savela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> Fine by me. It's just that dealing with scopes seems to be the problem that |> most people are complaining about rather than the existence of the addresses |> themselves. | |I cannot understand those people complaining about scopes. They are complainin

Re: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 09:34, Markku Savela wrote: > > > Fine by me. It's just that dealing with scopes seems to be the problem that > > most people are complaining about rather than the existence of the addresses > > themselves. > > I cannot understand those people complaining about scopes. We w

Re: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Markku Savela
> (a) addresses that are global > (b) addresses that are local, with limited reach (firewalled or > whatever) Of course, having only (a) would be ideal. But, this would work only if the whole address allocation is turned upside down: - you don't get addresses from your ISP, everyone/e

Re: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Markku Savela
> Fine by me. It's just that dealing with scopes seems to be the problem that > most people are complaining about rather than the existence of the addresses > themselves. I cannot understand those people complaining about scopes. We will have (a) addresses that are global (b) addresses that

RE: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Christian Huitema wrote: > > I'm assuming that for the intents and purposes of replacing > > "local" site-locals, "nearly unique" site-locals would be enough. > > Not quite. Depends on what you want. (Perhaps we should try to formulate these better first, but it's more int

Re: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Dan Lanciani
Pekka Savola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> I'm all in favor of unique site locals, |> but I don't see how they eliminate the need to deal with scopes. | |I'm not sure why we'd have to be able to kill scopes. Fine by me. It's just that dealing with scopes seems to be the problem that most peopl

RE: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Christian Huitema
> I'm assuming that for the intents and purposes of replacing > "local" site-locals, "nearly unique" site-locals would be enough. Not quite. You should get the slides of Rob Austein presentation to the working group. We must really separate two issues, reachability and ambiguity. It is very easy t

Re: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Pekka Savola
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Dan Lanciani wrote: > |It appears to me that we have a very obvious and clear solution here, not > |even requiring any IANA/IESG action to get kickstarted. > > A solution to which problem exactly? Look at Christian Huitema's mail today. The only thing this can't provide

Re: "unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Dan Lanciani
Pekka Savola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |I'm assuming that for the intents and purposes of replacing |"local" site-locals, "nearly unique" site-locals would be enough. [...] |It appears to me that we have a very obvious and clear solution here, not |even requiring any IANA/IESG action to get ki

"unique enough" generation

2002-11-21 Thread Pekka Savola
Hello, I'm assuming that for the intents and purposes of replacing "local" site-locals, "nearly unique" site-locals would be enough. (Actually, the change would be quite nice if implemented under fec0::/10 -- not many changes at all.) I'd like to focus a bit on how to generate these "nearly un