Re: [IPsec] Issue #98: 1 or two round trips for resumption

2009-04-23 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
On 4/22/2009 4:11 PM, Tero Kivinen wrote: Lakshminath Dondeti writes: I still do not think making the 1 RT protocol to 2 RT protocol in that case would really cause any noticeable effect to the actual handover. How do you know this? Because 10ms-100ms is MUCH less than 10 se

Re: [IPsec] Issue #98: 1 or two round trips for resumption

2009-04-23 Thread Tero Kivinen
Lakshminath Dondeti writes: > When did MOBIKE come into picture? What are you saying Tero, that IPsec > session resumption is an alternative to MOBIKE and a slow one at that? Yes. Both solve the same problem that IKE SA recovers from the IP-address change, or switching from one network to anoth

Re: [IPsec] Issue #98: 1 or two round trips for resumption

2009-04-23 Thread Lakshminath Dondeti
On 4/23/2009 3:57 PM, Tero Kivinen wrote: Lakshminath Dondeti writes: When did MOBIKE come into picture? What are you saying Tero, that IPsec session resumption is an alternative to MOBIKE and a slow one at that? Yes. Both solve the same problem that IKE SA recovers from the IP-add

Re: [IPsec] Issue #98: 1 or two round trips for resumption

2009-04-23 Thread Tero Kivinen
Lakshminath Dondeti writes: > MOBIKE assumes that the other side has state, correct? Yes. > Session resumption has to do with providing that state. How are they > the same? In this example given (handover from cellular to wlan, without breaking existing phone call), I do not really see any poin