[IPsec] Some comments about redirect

2009-05-27 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi. I've read through the draft again, and here are a few comments: Section 3 has the following line: If the IKE_SA_INIT request did not include the REDIRECT_SUPPORTED payload, the responder MUST NOT send the REDIRECT payload to the VPN

[IPsec] Some comments about redirect

2009-05-27 Thread Tero Kivinen
Yoav Nir writes: > Section 10 sets up an IANA registry for identity types. Couldn't we > just reuse the "IKEv2 Identification Payload ID Types"? There's > already IPv4, IPv6 and FQDN, and additionally KEY_ID for locally > meaningful names and a range of private use IP addresses. Why set up > a new

Re: [IPsec] Some comments about redirect

2009-05-27 Thread Yoav Nir
OK. In that case I would add to the initial registry 4 - locally meaningful name In our product, the gateways have "names" that appear both in the GUI and the configuration files (and logs). It's easier for them to fetch another gateway's "object" by name than by IP address. Such a name could

[IPsec] Question on exponent size as discussed in RFC 3526

2009-05-27 Thread Ricky Charlet
Hi folks, I'm having difficulty interpreting RFC3526, "More Modular Exponential (MODP) Diffie-Hellman groups" section 1, "Introduction". Quoting from the RFC -cut The exponent size used in the Diffie-Hellman must be selected so that it matches other parts of the sys

Re: [IPsec] Question on exponent size as discussed in RFC 3526

2009-05-27 Thread Scott Fluhrer
> -Original Message- > From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Ricky Charlet > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:02 PM > To: ipsec@ietf.org; kivi...@ssh.fi; mika.k...@helsinki.fi; > hila...@purplestreak.com; paul.hoff...@vpnc.org > Subject: [IPsec] Que

Re: [IPsec] Question on exponent size as discussed in RFC 3526

2009-05-27 Thread Ricky Charlet
Hi Scott, Thanks for your reply. Unfortunatly, your reply continues my exact same confusion. Should e be twice the size of the key you need or twice the size of the dh group in use? You state that > the reason that the examples seem to indicate a correlation with the > symmetric key siz

Re: [IPsec] Question on exponent size as discussed in RFC 3526

2009-05-27 Thread Scott Fluhrer
> -Original Message- > From: Ricky Charlet [mailto:rchar...@nortel.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:58 PM > To: Scott Fluhrer; ipsec@ietf.org; kivi...@ssh.fi; > mika.k...@helsinki.fi; hila...@purplestreak.com; paul.hoff...@vpnc.org > Subject: RE: [IPsec] Question on exponent size

Re: [IPsec] Question on exponent size as discussed in RFC 3526

2009-05-27 Thread Ricky Charlet
Ah, thanks. You helped me tremedously there with the size-of-group vs strength-of-group distinction. Very much appreciated. -- Ricky Charlet rchar...@nortel.com USA 408-495-5726 > -Original Message- > From: Scott Fluhrer [mailto:sfluh...@cisco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:54

Re: [IPsec] Final comments for ikev2-redirect-10

2009-05-27 Thread Vijay Devarapalli
Hi Pasi, On 5/26/09 1:17 AM, "pasi.ero...@nokia.com" wrote: > There's one remaining issue that was changed due to WGLC comments, but > the result isn't quite what it IMHO should be. > > When doing redirection during IKE_AUTH, in some situations the > IKE_AUTH response with the REDIRECT is the la

Re: [IPsec] Questions on ikev2-redirect-10

2009-05-27 Thread Vijay Devarapalli
Hi, On 5/26/09 10:10 PM, "Raj Singh" wrote: > Hi Vijay, > > I have some question on ikev2-redirect-10 draft. > > In section 5, > -- >     Once the client sends an acknowledgment to the gateway, it SHOULD >    delete the existing security associations with the old gateway by >    sending an

Re: [IPsec] Some comments about redirect

2009-05-27 Thread Vijay Devarapalli
Hello, On 5/27/09 12:36 AM, "Yoav Nir" wrote: > Hi. > > I've read through the draft again, and here are a few comments: > > Section 3 has the following line: > > If the >IKE_SA_INIT request did not include the REDIRECT_SUPPORTED payload

Re: [IPsec] Some comments about redirect

2009-05-27 Thread Vijay Devarapalli
Hi Yoav, On 5/27/09 3:11 AM, "Yoav Nir" wrote: > OK. In that case I would add to the initial registry > > 4 - locally meaningful name The client should be able to resolve this "locally meaningful name" to an IP address to which it can initiate a new IKE_SA_INIT exchange. These "locally meanin

Re: [IPsec] Some comments about redirect

2009-05-27 Thread Yoav Nir
The client has to have a PAD that includes the gateways. Our implementation has the client downloading the configuration (by a proprietary protocol) that includes the gateway names (and how to find them - IP address or DNS name). These gateway names can optionally be shown to the user in the

Re: [IPsec] Some comments about redirect

2009-05-27 Thread Yoav Nir
The change is sufficient OK about the status (rather than error) type OK about using a new registry (though I still think you need to allocate the "locally meaningful name" and some space for private use) Thanks Yoav From: Vijay Devarapalli [vi...@wicho

Re: [IPsec] Questions on ikev2-redirect-10

2009-05-27 Thread Raj Singh
Hi Vijay, On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:24 AM, Vijay Devarapalli wrote: > Hi, > > On 5/26/09 10:10 PM, "Raj Singh" wrote: > > > Hi Vijay, > > > > I have some question on ikev2-redirect-10 draft. > > > > In section 5, > > -- > > Once the client sends an acknowledgment to the gateway, it SHOULD