Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-04 Thread Raj Singh
Hi Yoav, Please find my input inline . With Regards, Raj On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: > Hi Raj > > The ordinary thing for a responder to do with unrecognized Notifies/VIDs is > to ignore them. So the only responder that will behave as you suggest is one > that supports this

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-04 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi Raj The ordinary thing for a responder to do with unrecognized Notifies/VIDs is to ignore them. So the only responder that will behave as you suggest is one that supports this extension, but is configured not to. At least for the remote access client, it makes sense for a client that faces

[IPsec] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-05

2009-07-04 Thread Yaron Sheffer
This is the beginning of a two-week WG Last Call, which will end July 18. The target status for this document is Proposed Standard. The current document is at http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ipsecme-traffic-visibility-05. If you have not read the document before now, please do so. Having

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-04 Thread Yaron Sheffer
Hi Raj, We sure can. But it will not be any of the existing payloads, i.e. won't be a Notify or a Vendor ID. It will be a completely new payload, presumably with the same semantics. Thanks, Yaron _ From: Raj Singh [mailto:rsjen...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 0

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-04 Thread Raj Singh
Hi Yaron, Its clear that critical bit refer to the payload, than to its content. Point well taken. But i am not able to understand why we can't define "critical" bit for new CHILDLESS_IKE_AUTH notify/VID payload ? With Regards, Raj On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > Nope.

Re: [IPsec] IKE's DH groups 19-21, NIST, FIPS 140-2, etc.

2009-07-04 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 7:43 AM -0400 7/4/09, Scott C Moonen wrote: >What's the next step? I have sent a message to the RFC Editor (which then gets sent to the doc authors and the IESG) about my concern about the correctness of the errata. We see how that plays out. >If there's agreement that we need a new RFC, I

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-04 Thread Yaron Sheffer
Nope. The Critical bit refers to the payload, rather than to its contents, and in fact cannot be set for payloads defined in RFC 4306 (such as VID and Notify). So you need to define a NEW payload to benefit from it. Thanks, Yaron _ From: Raj Singh [mailto:rsjen...@gmai

Re: [IPsec] IKE's DH groups 19-21, NIST, FIPS 140-2, etc.

2009-07-04 Thread Scott C Moonen
Thanks, Paul, Sean. What's the next step? If there's agreement that we need a new RFC, I'd be glad to pitch in with the effort. Scott Moonen (smoo...@us.ibm.com) z/OS Communications Server TCP/IP Development http://scott.andstuff.org/ http://www.linkedin.com/in/smoonen From: Paul Hoffman T

Re: [IPsec] FW: I-D Action:draft-nir-ipsecme-childless-00.txt

2009-07-04 Thread Raj Singh
Hi Yaron, I agree with you. Your suggestion of having "critical" bit set on childless notify/VID payload from initiator in IKE_SA_INIT exchange will define the bahavior as mentioned below. If initiator want to childless IKE_AUTH, it will send CHILDLESS_IKE_AUTH notify/VID payload having "critica