[IPsec] Five more issues to close in IKEv2bis

2010-02-01 Thread Yoav Nir
Hi all. Yet another batch of issues that we wish to close. Issue #140 - No SPD entry for transport mode Section 2.23.1: If the responder doesn't find SPD entry for transport mode with the modified traffic selectors, and does a lookup with the origin

[IPsec] Replay Protection

2010-02-01 Thread Venkatesh Sriram
Hi, Most IETF documents state that replay protection is not provided with manual keying. I wanted to understand the reason for the same. Is it because with manual keying there is no way to negotiate the sequence numbers and thus provision for replay protection is not supported? Thanks, Sriram ___

Re: [IPsec] Replay Protection

2010-02-01 Thread Dan McDonald
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 06:15:40AM +0530, Venkatesh Sriram wrote: > Hi, > > Most IETF documents state that replay protection is not provided with > manual keying. I wanted to understand the reason for the same. Is it > because with manual keying there is no way to negotiate the sequence > numbers

Re: [IPsec] Replay Protection

2010-02-01 Thread Venkatesh Sriram
> > Programming interfaces to the SADB (like PF_KEY) or manual-keying programs > (like setkey(8) on BSD or ipseckey(1M) on OpenSolaris) might be able to allow > a manually-keyed SA with replay protection, but without the above operational > restrictions, things would break down quickly.  This is wh

Re: [IPsec] Replay Protection

2010-02-01 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Venkatesh Sriram wrote: > Hi, > > Most IETF documents state that replay protection is not provided with > manual keying. I wanted to understand the reason for the same. Is it > because with manual keying there is no way to negotiate the sequence > numbers and thus pro

[IPsec] Detecting NAT rebooting

2010-02-01 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. ikev2bis 2.23 says: o There are cases where a NAT box decides to remove mappings that are still alive (for example, the keepalive interval is too long, or the NAT box is rebooted). To recover in these cases, hosts that do not support other methods of recover

Re: [IPsec] Detecting NAT rebooting

2010-02-01 Thread Raj Singh
Hi Paul, A system can detect NAT mapping removal from CHANGED source port from authenticated IKE PACKET. A system can detect NAT mapping removal from CHANGED source port of UDP encapsulated packet from authenticated IPsec PACKET. Also, system knows in process of NAT detection, where it is behind