Re: [IPsec] AD review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-06

2022-10-21 Thread CJ Tjhai
Hi Roman, We have updated our draft to incorporate Russ' feedback and also changes from IANA review. it also includes the following changes following your suggestions. The updated draft is available here https://github.com/post-quantum/ietf-pq-ikev2/blob/master/draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-k

Re: [IPsec] Discussion of draft-pwouters-ipsecme-multi-sa-performance

2022-10-21 Thread Steffen Klassert
Hi Valery, On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 05:10:32PM +0300, Valery Smyslov wrote: > > > > > > > I could guess that the fallback SA *does* require locks. > > > > > > It also seems to me. So I see no difference if the packet > > > can be re-steered to a different CPU, in any case we'll have > > > performan

Re: [IPsec] AD review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-06

2022-10-21 Thread Roman Danyliw
If you have the bandwidth, I would recommend publishing a new draft. The pre-meeting publication cut off is on Oct 24. Having an up to date document is helpful going into the meeting. Roman From: IPsec on behalf of CJ Tjhai Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 3:08

Re: [IPsec] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-07

2022-10-21 Thread Russ Housley
These changes resolve me comments. Russ > On Oct 21, 2022, at 2:48 AM, CJ Tjhai > wrote: > > Hi Russ, > > Many thanks for the review of our document. Please see our comments inline > below. The updated version of the draft is available here: > https://github.com/post-quantum/ietf-pq-ikev2/b

Re: [IPsec] Discussion of draft-pwouters-ipsecme-multi-sa-performance

2022-10-21 Thread Paul Wouters
On Oct 21, 2022, at 03:37, Steffen Klassert wrote: > >  > Another possibility would be to use the same keymat on all > percpu SAs You cannot do that. You need to ensure unique IVs for AEAD so you would need to subdivide the IV space. You would also still reach max operations on these SAs on

Re: [IPsec] Discussion of draft-pwouters-ipsecme-multi-sa-performance

2022-10-21 Thread Valery Smyslov
Hi Steffen, > Hi Valery, > > > Then my next question is - how the sending side decides > > whether to one of use per-CPU SAs or the fallback SA? > > My guess that the packet is handled by some kernel thread > > (i.e. by some CPU), so once this CPU figures out that > > it doesn't have an SA - I as

[IPsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipsecme-mib-iptfs-11.txt

2022-10-21 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Security Maintenance and Extensions WG of the IETF. Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for IP Traffic Flow Security Authors : Don Fedyk

[IPsec] Protocol Action: 'Definitions of Managed Objects for IP Traffic Flow Security' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-ipsecme-mib-iptfs-11.txt)

2022-10-21 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Definitions of Managed Objects for IP Traffic Flow Security' (draft-ietf-ipsecme-mib-iptfs-11.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the IP Security Maintenance and Extensions Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Paul Wo

[IPsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-08.txt

2022-10-21 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Security Maintenance and Extensions WG of the IETF. Title : Multiple Key Exchanges in IKEv2 Authors : C. Tjhai M. Tomli

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-xu-risav-02.txt

2022-10-21 Thread Michael Richardson
Ben Schwartz wrote: > We've just put out an extensively revised version of our RISAV proposal > (the I stands for IPsec). We'd like to start getting feedback from the > IPsec experts. We're also hoping to present this idea and solicit > feedback at IETF 115. Thanks. The questio

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-xu-risav-02.txt

2022-10-21 Thread Ben Schwartz
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 3:43 PM Michael Richardson wrote: > > Ben Schwartz wrote: > > We've just put out an extensively revised version of our RISAV > proposal > > (the I stands for IPsec). We'd like to start getting feedback from > the > > IPsec experts. We're also hoping to prese

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-xu-risav-02.txt

2022-10-21 Thread Erik Kline
I suppose you could try to add a "we're exempt from 8200" paragraph and see what happens. You could also just say that ASBRs are presumed to be communicating within a well-managed environment, are often zero or one hops away from one another, and that this environment MUST accommodate the larger M

Re: [IPsec] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-xu-risav-02.txt

2022-10-21 Thread Michael Richardson
I haven't found in the draft an explanation of where the original source and destination address would go. IPsec SPI are seat specific, the ABSR can't just eat AH headers from packets that were not addressed to it. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.