Re: [IPsec] Last Call: (Postquantum Preshared Keys for IKEv2) to Proposed Standard

2019-12-11 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Hi Rich, I strongly disagree with your statement that “this is premature”, and the slides that you cite do not support that claim. I totally agree with the points in Kenny’s slides, especially as they pertain to QKD and SDO-shopping, but they say nothing about improvements to security protocol

Re: [IPsec] Updated ESP/AH algorithm I-D

2013-03-14 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Hi Sheila, Thanks for pointing this out. I agree that the draft needs to be changed to align with the ESP RFC. David On 3/12/13 10:01 AM, "Frankel, Sheila E." wrote: >Hi David and Wajdi, > >Your updated ESP/AH algorithm doc looks great, and is very much needed. I >just have one comment. You

Re: [IPsec] I-D on Using the ECC Brainpool Curves for IKEv2 Key Exchange

2012-11-08 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
On 11/8/12 3:26 AM, "Johannes Merkle" wrote: >Hi Tero, > >> Every single option adds complexity, so I do not think we should add >> more optional things. > >Point compression is not the focus of our draft. Given the opposition it >is facing here, I suggest to wait for further >replies and if po

Re: [IPsec] I-D on Using the ECC Brainpool Curves for IKEv2 Key Exchange

2012-11-07 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Hi Johannes, On 11/7/12 6:57 AM, "Johannes Merkle" wrote: >Hi David, > >> I strongly encourage you to remove the "Compressed" point format. Doing >> so will minimize the changes between RFC 5903 and make the draft easier >>to >> support, and improve the overall implementation by making it simpl

Re: [IPsec] draft-mcgrew-ipsec-me-esp-ah-reqts

2012-11-05 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Hi Michael, On 11/4/12 10:46 AM, "Michael Richardson" wrote: > >What in practice, for an implementer and/or his marketing manager, is >the difference between "MAY" for algorithm and not listing it at all? > >I would understand if we had "MAY+", but really, that is what "SHOULD" >means. > >Could

Re: [IPsec] updating ESP and AH requirements

2012-11-05 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
WG level. I hope that IPsec ME can move forward with updated algorithm guidance without waiting for the selection of an alternate, which could be a protracted process. Also I notice that for ESP we will need to recommend a mode of operation as well. Thanks, David > >Yoav > >On Nov

Re: [IPsec] I-D on Using the ECC Brainpool Curves for IKEv2 Key Exchange

2012-11-05 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Hi Johannes, Some quick comments: I strongly encourage you to remove the "Compressed" point format. Doing so will minimize the changes between RFC 5903 and make the draft easier to support, and improve the overall implementation by making it simpler. Also, it is not clear that there is any advan

Re: [IPsec] updating ESP and AH requirements

2012-11-05 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Thanks Yaron, Paul, David, Yoav, and Scott for your input on the draft and the issues it addresses. The main concern so far has been the TDES-CBC encryption guidance. I was unable to find a reference that gives a good treatment of attacks on 64-bit block ciphers used at and beyond the birthday bo

Re: [IPsec] updating ESP and AH requirements (was: Call for agenda items)

2012-10-23 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
On 10/22/12 8:32 PM, "Paul Hoffman" wrote: >On Oct 22, 2012, at 4:55 PM, David McGrew (mcgrew) >wrote: > >> One thing that deserves to be on the agenda is a discussion of the need >>to >> update the ESP and AH crypto requirements, which have not been

[IPsec] updating ESP and AH requirements (was: Call for agenda items)

2012-10-22 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Hi Paul, One thing that deserves to be on the agenda is a discussion of the need to update the ESP and AH crypto requirements, which have not been updated since 2007, and to provide guidance on how to use ESP and AH to achieve security goals. I have a draft proposing what that could look like, d

Re: [IPsec] ECDSA in IKEv2

2012-07-24 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Hi Yaron, On 7/24/12 12:08 PM, "Yaron Sheffer" wrote: >Hi, >recent discussion on the list has indicated that there is some interest >in better supporting ECDSA certificates in IKEv2, and that the existing >solutions are not very extensible. The discussion was very useful in >outlining the existi

Re: [IPsec] Using ECC Brainpool curves with ipsec

2012-07-19 Thread David McGrew (mcgrew)
Hi Johannes, On 7/3/12 11:59 AM, "Johannes Merkle" wrote: >Hi, > >in RFC 5639, we have specified a new set of elliptic curve parameters for >use in cryptographic applications. Meanwhile, >support for these "Brainpool Curves" has been included in some crypto >libraries as openssl (recently) and c