[IPsec] draft-kivinen-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics comments

2009-02-02 Thread Dragan Grebovich
eeing it progress on Informational track. I believe also, that a deterministic approach would be quicker and easier. I suggest the "visibility" draft remain on the WG Standards track as it is more implementable. _ Dragan Grebovich, CISSP Nortel Networks Ente

Re: [IPsec] draft-kivinen-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics comments

2009-02-03 Thread Dragan Grebovich
g] On Behalf Of Yoav Nir Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:16 AM To: Grebovich, Dragan (BL60:SF00); ipsec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [IPsec] draft-kivinen-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics comments Dragan Grebovich wrote: Hi Tero I reviewed your heuristics draft and I believe it is in

Re: [IPsec] draft-kivinen-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics comments

2009-02-04 Thread Dragan Grebovich
AM To: Grebovich, Dragan (BL60:SF00); ipsec@ietf.org Subject: RE: [IPsec] draft-kivinen-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics comments Dragan Grebovich wrote: Yoav I apologize for not being clearer earlier. I was not suggesting any new/different policy enforc

Re: [IPsec] draft-kivinen-ipsecme-esp-null-heuristics comments

2009-02-05 Thread Dragan Grebovich
I looked for some traffic stats in a real, large enterprise network and I found that UDP comprises 25-30% vs. TCP 70-75% of all traffic. The stats were measured on multiple places in the network, and multiple samples were taken over the past 6 weeks. Also, there is a slow but consistent growth of

Re: [IPsec] Potential way forward for IPsecME on ESP-NULL

2009-02-18 Thread Dragan Grebovich
Sounds good to me. That's all I wanted from Day One. :-) -Original Message- From: ipsec-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipsec-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hoffman Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:56 AM To: IPsecme WG Subject: [IPsec] Potential way forward for IPsecME on ESP-NULL We

Re: [IPsec] Traffic visibility - consensus call

2010-01-06 Thread Dragan Grebovich
Yes and Yes. I supported WESP from the beginning, because it allows intermediate systems to perform DPI on ESP-NULL packets. I was not in favor of heuristics - not because it is a bad solution (on the contrary) - but because many products we have/make today could not be upgraded to support it. M