Re: Anycast support in draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-02.txt

2005-04-08 Thread Rob Austein
At Fri, 08 Apr 2005 16:52:50 -0700, Erik Nordmark wrote: > > 1. Add text to say "SHOULD limit packets with an anycast source to 1280 > bytes". Add note that ICMP-based tools don't work with an anycast > source address. Unless, of course, the application protocol in question happens to be

Re: Anycast support in draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-02.txt

2005-04-08 Thread Erik Nordmark
Fred Baker wrote: On Apr 8, 2005, at 4:58 PM, Erik Nordmark wrote: Applying IPsec doesn't help solve the authorization issue of who should be allowed to receive packets sent to a particular anycast address. Can you tell me any address or type of address for which that is an objective either of

Re: Anycast support in draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-02.txt

2005-04-08 Thread Fred Baker
On Apr 8, 2005, at 4:58 PM, Erik Nordmark wrote: Applying IPsec doesn't help solve the authorization issue of who should be allowed to receive packets sent to a particular anycast address. Can you tell me any address or type of address for which that is an objective either of internet routing or

Re: Ordering of % and / in RFC 4007

2005-04-08 Thread Mark Andrews
> >> The code below would be straightforward if the "/64" prefix were > >> accepted by getaddrinfo. > >> > >> Besides, I don't think the textual representation should be defined > to > >> make only Basic Socket API functions straightforward. IMHO, the > order > >> should be logical on its own

Re: Anycast support in draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-02.txt

2005-04-08 Thread Erik Nordmark
Fred Baker wrote: The mobility model that Joe and I discussed requires a security association to be set up with the anycast address (IPSEC management protocols reply with the anycast address as a source), supply a COA, and then TCP is set up to the COA. FWIW if you believe that routing is trustw

Re: Anycast support in draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-02.txt

2005-04-08 Thread Erik Nordmark
James Kempf wrote: Correct. However, the v6 addressing spec prohibits the use of an anycast address from being used as the source address in a datagram, or being bound to an interface on a host. These two restrictions effectively prohibit the use of anycast as a service distribution mechanism.

Re: Anycast support in draft-ietf-ipv6-addr-arch-v4-02.txt

2005-04-08 Thread Erik Nordmark
Brian Haberman wrote: o An anycast address MAY be used as the source address of an IPv6 packet. o An anycast address MAY be assigned to an IPv6 host. This change will allow users to operate IPv6 anycast services in the same manner in which they do today with IPv4 anycast. If we do th

Re: Security considerations of the ICMPv6 draft

2005-04-08 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 8 Apr 2005, Fernando Gont wrote: I think the ICMPv6 draft should add some words to raise awareness about ICMP-based attacks that can be performed against transport protocols. Any text suggestions -- just to have an idea how verbose and explicit you're looking at; did you refer to the prop

RE: Ordering of % and / in RFC 4007

2005-04-08 Thread Steve Cipolli
>> >> The code below would be straightforward if the "/64" prefix were >> accepted by getaddrinfo. >> >> Besides, I don't think the textual representation should be defined to >> make only Basic Socket API functions straightforward. IMHO, the order >> should be logical on its own. The prefi

RE: Security considerations of the ICMPv6 draft

2005-04-08 Thread Elwyn davies
Hi, Fernando, Looking back at the ICMPv6 draft, in the light of this, there are a number of sanity checks that could be performed on returning error messages to minimise security risks. For example: In draft-gont-tcpm-icmp-attacks-03.txt, the 'port unreachable' error is cited as possibly being cl

RE: Ordering of % and / in RFC 4007

2005-04-08 Thread Steve Cipolli
The code below would be straightforward if the "/64" prefix were accepted by getaddrinfo. Besides, I don't think the textual representation should be defined to make only Basic Socket API functions straightforward. IMHO, the order should be logical on its own. The prefix is clearly more tight

Re: draft-ietf-ipngwg-icmp-v3-06.txt and affect on RFC3542

2005-04-08 Thread Kristine Adamson
Thomas Narten wrote on 04/05/2005 09:04:11 PM: > JINMEI Tatuya / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCP0BMQEMjOkgbKEI=?= > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 06:13:22 -0700, > > > Kristine Adamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Thanks for the responses.  But if RFC3542 is not updat

RE: ICMPv6 draft: Source Address Determination/Anycast considerations

2005-04-08 Thread Elwyn davies
(As party to the discussion which produced this new text) I don't believe that this alters the current state of affairs significantly. If the ICMPv6 message is coming from the destination node it is (still) required by 2.2(a) to use the destination adddress of the original message as source. Th

Security considerations of the ICMPv6 draft

2005-04-08 Thread Fernando Gont
Folks, I sent some comments off-list to Mukesh, and he suggested to raise them on the list. I think the ICMPv6 draft should add some words to raise awareness about ICMP-based attacks that can be performed against transport protocols. For example, the current draft suggest IPsec, or no checks at

Re: ICMPv6 draft: Source Address Determination

2005-04-08 Thread Fernando Gont
At 10:53 09/03/2005 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As discussed in the IPv6 WG meeting yesterday, I am planning to replace sub-sections (b), (c) and (d) of section 2.2 in the draft with the following text: === (b) If the message is a response to a message sent t