DNS opcode DISCOVER [Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)]

2007-01-12 Thread Pekka Savola
[DNS opcode DISCOVER] On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Paul Vixie wrote: yes, it has. why, under $DIETIES green earth would you want to push a dead technology? The IESG is dead-set against this. because the IESG has turned over N times during those 8 years, and the idea is still solid

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-12 Thread Paul Vixie
... if your L2 supports broadcast but at significant power cost then i suggest we revive bmanning's old DNS DISCOVER proposal. I have no problem with that. yo, bill! yes? yes, you. you mean the DISCOVER ID that is -still- in the RFCED queue? yes, that

IPv6 design flaw to force all-nodes multicast

2007-01-12 Thread Masataka Ohta
Pars Mutaf wrote: Who cares what happens at L2? That is not a concern to IP. But we can build new applications comfortably if we know that the signaling and energy costs were minimized ? (I mean regardless of L2 specific details) With the obvious example of you, link-local

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-12 Thread Paul Vixie
do you want the code (8.1.2 based and haq'ed into 9.3.1 ) or do you want to start fresh? put both up for ftp and share the url's here, and isc among others will take a look at them. the text will be pumped out shortly. thanksly.

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-12 Thread Paul Vixie
My question to Paul Vixie: you'll also have to cope with networks that aren't using EUI64 or for that matter aren't using a 64-bit netmask. Is this an important limitation? (I'm asking the question) i think so, but it's a subjective matter. we're funded to do some early DHCPv6 work at

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-12 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 05:41:26PM +0100, Pars Mutaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 31 lines which said: Again, *read* draft-ietf-dnsext-mdns-47.txt, the use of unicast is clearly possible (section 2.4). But it is still multicast DNS? I really do not understand you. Try in French

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-12 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 03:30:26PM +0100, Pars Mutaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 81 lines which said: I used the term .local with no particular reason. If recent advances showed that it is unnecessary. Not unecessary: bad. If I'm correct, it is bad because everyone would have a

Re: DNS opcode DISCOVER [Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)]

2007-01-12 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 11:36:31AM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: [DNS opcode DISCOVER] On Thu, 11 Jan 2007, Paul Vixie wrote: yes, it has. why, under $DIETIES green earth would you want to push a dead technology? The IESG is dead-set against this. because the IESG has turned over

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-12 Thread Pars Mutaf
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 17:56 +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: Le mercredi 10 janvier 2007 17:14, Pars Mutaf a écrit : So, the proposal is that if the hash collides for different names, then johnsmith.local must rename himself, right? Right. Please let me know if you see a problem with

Re: multicast DNS without multicast (in IPv6 only)

2007-01-12 Thread Pars Mutaf
On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 17:53 +, Paul Vixie wrote: My question to Paul Vixie: you'll also have to cope with networks that aren't using EUI64 or for that matter aren't using a 64-bit netmask. Is this an important limitation? (I'm asking the question) i think so, but it's a