Hi Ammar, On Nov 22, 2012, at 2:43 AM, Ammar Salih wrote: > I can see almost everyone agrees to that the RIR info is not accurate and in > many cases is incorrect, so why the hassle of assigning wrong locations? And > why developers are building their applications based on incorrect > information.
If this information is for application-layer consumption, it should be provided at the application layer. If existing application-layer mechanisms aren't providing what developers need, they should be improved. > > And frankly speaking, I don't agree to *sending wrong location information > to protect our privacy*, it's either you send correct ones and get the > benefits of location-based services or you don't. There is an important set of use cases where sending precise but spoofed location information can be very important (stalking, domestic violence, labor disputes/whistleblowing, etc.) -- when someone else who is tracking your location needs to see a location reported other than where you were. Again since the use context is required for supporting these, application-layer mechanisms and controls are the best tools for delivering this sort of privacy protection. Alissa > > Thanks, > Ammar > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sth...@nethelp.no [mailto:sth...@nethelp.no] > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:28 PM > To: ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq > Cc: ma...@isc.org; geop...@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Geopriv] Adding GPS location to IPv6 header > >>> You can probably get a *hint* about my location from an IP lookup. >>> You can definitely not be certain my location >> >> Well, with the new draft, you can do the same, location accuracy can >> be tweaked to reflect city only, or city and region..etc. > > And what makes you think I'm interested in publishing this? > >>> it tells me the correct *country* for the IP. However, both the >>> region and the city are wrong. >> >> That is the whole point, why are we happy with providing incorrect >> information? It's even without our awareness or control. > > I don't particularly *want* to publish this information. Therefore, if the > geolocation data is to a large degree wrong, that's just fine! > > My whole point was simply meant as a counterargument to your "I can simply > do ip lookup and find out your location". And my claim is that no, you can't > really "simply" do that. And I like it that way. > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no > > _______________________________________________ > Geopriv mailing list > geop...@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/geopriv > -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------
