Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases

2007-06-28 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-06-27 13:54, Per Heldal wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 23:48 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: If we want to issue address space to folks for private use, it needs to be out of the same block(s) that the RIRs use to allocate space for public use, because sooner or later those private networks

Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases

2007-06-28 Thread Per Heldal
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 10:12 +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-06-27 13:54, Per Heldal wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 23:48 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: If we want to issue address space to folks for private use, it needs to be out of the same block(s) that the RIRs use to allocate

Actaully about PI [Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases]

2007-06-28 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-06-28 10:46, Per Heldal wrote: On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 10:12 +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 2007-06-27 13:54, Per Heldal wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 23:48 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: If we want to issue address space to folks for private use, it needs to be out of the same

Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases

2007-06-27 Thread Paul Vixie
(headers trimmed) From: Scott Leibrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Vixie wrote: please re-think this in terms of connectivity realms, of which the DFZ is one, and the american automotive exchange is another, ..., and every ad-hoc wireless mesh is another. ... ... I'm not sure that we can

Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases

2007-06-27 Thread shamilton
I totally agree with Stephen and others than regardless of original intent 'private' PI routes will end up public, whether by intention down the road, by accident, or by hi-jacking. It strikes me that the way to address this is after the allocation process by means of routing authentication

Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases

2007-06-27 Thread Per Heldal
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 23:48 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote: If we want to issue address space to folks for private use, it needs to be out of the same block(s) that the RIRs use to allocate space for public use, because sooner or later those private networks are going to end up being publicly

Re: [ppml] draft-ietf-ipv6-ula-central-02.txt use cases

2007-06-26 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Scott Leibrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] which wouldn't be nec'y if both of these networks were in some new kind of PI space that was allocated out of a prefix designated by IANA for non-DFZ use. (i keep bringing the discussion back to that point because asking IANA to designate such a