RE: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread Sheng Jiang
In message 4e447c7e.30...@gmail.com, Brian E Carpenter writes: On 2011-08-12 11:47, Mark Andrews wrote: I think it is make work That's why I am only suggesting an IESG decision, not a draft and an RFC. and won't change the amount of confusion. In addition A6 allows compresssion

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread Roger Jørgensen
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What do 6man people think about moving RFC 2874 (the A6 record) from Experimental to Historic status? It's pretty clear that it doesn't have any real value, and it can still create confusion for

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 5D36713D8A4E7348A7E10DF7437A4B920122BD2C@SZXEML506-MBS.china.huawei .com, Sheng Jiang writes: In message 4e447c7e.30...@gmail.com, Brian E Carpenter writes: On 2011-08-12 11:47, Mark Andrews wrote: I think it is make work That's why I am only suggesting an IESG decision,

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread SM
Hi Brian, At 18:06 11-08-2011, Brian E Carpenter wrote: If it's historic, servers shouldn't even contain any A6 records, surely? It only means that there is consensus within the IETF to classify the specification as Historic. The A6 records won't disappear overnight though. I suggest

RE: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread Sheng Jiang
In message 4e447c7e.30...@gmail.com, Brian E Carpenter writes: On 2011-08-12 11:47, Mark Andrews wrote: I think it is make work That's why I am only suggesting an IESG decision, not a draft and an RFC. and won't change the amount of confusion. In addition A6

RE : A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
+1 Message d'origine De: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org de la part de Jiangsheng Date: ven. 12-août-11 02:57 À: Brian E Carpenter; 6man Cc: Tim Chown Objet : RE: A6 record status +1 When we did 6renum current practise analysis, we found A6 record is helpful in renumbering cases

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread David Conrad
Mark, On Aug 11, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: The root servers are getting 100's of A6 q/s (~20:1 :A6 http://k.root-servers.org/statistics/GLOBAL/daily/). Yeah, so? The vast majority of the queries hitting the root servers are useless crap. 100's of A6 qps is in the noise.

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I agree that the status of the RFC has no immediate or direct impact on the real world. But I think it's orthogonal to the *operational* question of how to eliminate the residual A6 records and how to eventually eliminate A6 queries. Mark is completely correct that this would require a plan - but

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread Ralph Droms
Mark - do you have any estimate of the current use of A6 records? I'd like to get an idea of the scope of the impact of moving A6 records to Historic. - Ralph On Aug 12, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message 4e447c7e.30...@gmail.com, Brian E Carpenter writes:

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-12 Thread David Conrad
Brian, On Aug 12, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: But I think it's orthogonal to the *operational* question of how to eliminate the residual A6 records and how to eventually eliminate A6 queries. If you can figure this out, perhaps the lesson can be applied to iqueries and

A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Hi, What do 6man people think about moving RFC 2874 (the A6 record) from Experimental to Historic status? It's pretty clear that it doesn't have any real value, and it can still create confusion for newcomers. IMHO this doesn't need a draft; the IESG could just do it. Regards Brian

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Brian, What do 6man people think about moving RFC 2874 (the A6 record) from Experimental to Historic status? I really thought that it already was Historic :-) No objection at all! Thanks, Sander smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

RE: A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Tina TSOU
Chown Subject: A6 record status Hi, What do 6man people think about moving RFC 2874 (the A6 record) from Experimental to Historic status? It's pretty clear that it doesn't have any real value, and it can still create confusion for newcomers. IMHO this doesn't need a draft; the IESG could just

RE: A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Christian Huitema
Subject: RE: A6 record status Brian, I'm with you. I don't use A6 record in any case. Best Regards, Tina TSOU http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html -Original Message- From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter Sent: Thursday, August 11

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Mark Andrews
. -Original Message- From: ipv6-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tina T SOU Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:13 PM To: Brian E Carpenter; 6man Cc: Tim Chown Subject: RE: A6 record status Brian, I'm with you. I don't use A6 record in any case. Best Regards, Tina

RE: A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Jiangsheng
it to Historic. Sheng -Original Message- From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 6:06 AM To: 6man Cc: Jiangsheng; Tim Chown Subject: A6 record status Hi, What do 6man people think about moving RFC 2874 (the A6 record) from

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Brian E Carpenter
...@ietf.org [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tina T SOU Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 3:13 PM To: Brian E Carpenter; 6man Cc: Tim Chown Subject: RE: A6 record status Brian, I'm with you. I don't use A6 record in any case. Best Regards, Tina TSOU http://tinatsou.weebly.com

Re: A6 record status

2011-08-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 4e447c7e.30...@gmail.com, Brian E Carpenter writes: On 2011-08-12 11:47, Mark Andrews wrote: I think it is make work That's why I am only suggesting an IESG decision, not a draft and an RFC. and won't change the amount of confusion. In addition A6 allows compresssion of