Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Richard Hartmann
You are right, it can not be Google's responsibility to fix other networks. That being said, given initial and then monthly warnings, including a link to a FAQ, from noreply@ to whois contacts, you would most likely help increase IPv6 adoption. Richard Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity.

Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Lorenzo Colitti
And in the meantime, accept that the users of that operator's network cannot reliably reach our services? If you were a user of that operator, I suspect you wouldn't like that. I suspect you especially wouldn't like it if you called the operator and they told you there were no problems, and most w

Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Doug Barton
On 4/16/15 10:22 PM, Frank Habicht wrote: Hi, On 4/17/2015 6:45 AM, Erik Kline wrote: On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Brian E Carpenter But the incentive is wrong. Forcing users to drop back to IPv4 offers no incentive to fix the IPv6 problem. The correct incentive would be to tell an operat

Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Frank Habicht
Hi, On 4/17/2015 6:45 AM, Erik Kline wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Brian E Carpenter >> But the incentive is wrong. Forcing users to drop back to IPv4 offers >> no incentive to fix the IPv6 problem. The correct incentive would be to >> tell an operator that they will be blacklisted un

Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Erik Kline
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 17/04/2015 15:17, Erik Kline wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: >>> On 16/04/15 01:57, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: >>> For the avoidance of mystery: Google performs measurements of IPv6 connectivity an

Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 17/04/2015 15:17, Erik Kline wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: >> On 16/04/15 01:57, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: >> >>> For the avoidance of mystery: Google performs measurements of IPv6 >>> connectivity and latency on an ongoing basis. The Google DNS servers do >>> not re

Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Erik Kline
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Phil Mayers wrote: > On 16/04/15 01:57, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > >> For the avoidance of mystery: Google performs measurements of IPv6 >> connectivity and latency on an ongoing basis. The Google DNS servers do >> not return records to DNS resolvers if our meas

Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Brian Rak
On 4/15/2015 8:57 PM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:56 AM, Brian E Carpenter mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com>> wrote: I suggest checking if any of your affected users have broken 6to4 setups, and that you are applying the relevant mitigations in RFC 6343. M

Re: Google no longer returning AAAA records?

2015-04-16 Thread Phil Mayers
On 16/04/15 01:57, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: For the avoidance of mystery: Google performs measurements of IPv6 connectivity and latency on an ongoing basis. The Google DNS servers do not return records to DNS resolvers if our measurements indicate that for users of those resolvers, HTTP/HTTPS