Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jeroen Massar On 2014-11-08 18:38, Tore Anderson wrote: Yannis: «We're enabling IPv6 on our CPEs» Jeroen: «And then getting broken connectivity to Google» I'm not a native speaker of English, but I struggle to understand it any other way than you're saying there's something broken

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Tore Anderson
* Nick Hilliard On 09/11/2014 11:00, Tore Anderson wrote: Only if Google and Akamai are universally broken, which does not seem to have been the case. I tested Google from the RING at 23:20 UTC yesterday: did you do a control run on a known working site? No. I feel that 250+ successes

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-09 12:00, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar On 2014-11-08 18:38, Tore Anderson wrote: Yannis: «We're enabling IPv6 on our CPEs» Jeroen: «And then getting broken connectivity to Google» I'm not a native speaker of English, but I struggle to understand it any other way than

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Job Snijders
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 08:03:01PM +0100, Jeroen Massar wrote: No. I feel that 250+ successes vs 10 failures is enough to conclude that Akamai and Google are *not* universally broken, far from it. Testing from colod boxes on well behaved networks (otherwise they would not know or be part

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jeroen Massar Testing from colod boxes on well behaved networks (otherwise they would not know or be part of the RING), while the problem lies with actual home users is quite a difference. So far you've been claiming that the problem lies with Google or Akamai. If true - and I don't dispute

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Doug Barton
On 11/9/14 12:27 PM, Tore Anderson wrote: So far you've been claiming that the problem lies with Google or Akamai. If true - and I don't dispute that it is - then testing from the RING should work just as well as from any home network. No, that's not true at all. Eyeball networks have very

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-09 21:27, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar Testing from colod boxes on well behaved networks (otherwise they would not know or be part of the RING), while the problem lies with actual home users is quite a difference. So far you've been claiming that the problem lies with

Re: Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-09 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-09 22:10, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar Also note that the Akamai problem (which still persists) is a random one. Hence fetching one URL is just a pure luck thing if it works or not. As a generic page has multiple objects though, you'll hit it much quicker. Hm. As I've

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-08 Thread Yannis Nikolopoulos
On 11/03/2014 10:25 AM, Geoff Huston wrote: On 3 Nov 2014, at 6:43 pm, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) evyn...@cisco.com wrote: [As a side note, it seems that the European 'google' statistics are now more in line with the expectation] Several countries have recently made good progress dixit Google

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-08 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jeroen Massar On 2014-11-08 11:34, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar On 2014-11-08 10:27, Yannis Nikolopoulos wrote: [..] the short story here is that we're (finally) enabling IPv6 on our (already capable) CPEs :) And then getting broken connectivity to Google:

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-08 16:16, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar On 2014-11-08 11:34, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar On 2014-11-08 10:27, Yannis Nikolopoulos wrote: [..] the short story here is that we're (finally) enabling IPv6 on our (already capable) CPEs :) And then getting broken

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-08 Thread Tore Anderson
* Jeroen Massar The only link: they are all using IPv6. You are trying to make this OTE link. I have never stated anything like that. Though, you likely take that from the fact that the reply followed in that thread. Yannis: «We're enabling IPv6 on our CPEs» Jeroen: «And then getting

Some very nice broken IPv6 networks at Google and Akamai (Was: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google)

2014-11-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2014-11-08 18:38, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar The only link: they are all using IPv6. You are trying to make this OTE link. I have never stated anything like that. Though, you likely take that from the fact that the reply followed in that thread. Yannis: «We're enabling IPv6

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-08 Thread Hannigan, Martin
On Nov 8, 2014, at 06:45, Jeroen Massar jer...@massar.ch wrote: On 2014-11-08 11:34, Tore Anderson wrote: * Jeroen Massar [clip] At least Akamai is claiming to be looking into it, but with their recent We are. Including observing the discussion here and other places. I'll circle

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-08 Thread Brandon Butterworth
Including observing the discussion here and other places I see the google problem discussed elsewhere too, perhaps the same problem as - - Begin Included Message - From outages-boun...@outages.org Sat Nov 8 21:03:08 2014 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2014 13:02:50 -0800 To: Mark Kamichoff

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 04, 2014 09:52:43 AM Tarko Tikan wrote: I will do technical writeup on the tech we are using after we get our PR out (which should be soon). That would be awesome. For consumer broadband deployments, it would be nice to know what technologies you and others have gone

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-04 Thread Mark Tinka
On Tuesday, November 04, 2014 02:27:03 PM Bjørn Mork wrote: Erik has already provided some details on the CPE side. So I will try to add a bit of network details. Very nice, Bjorn. Thanks! Mark. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

SV: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-03 Thread erik.taraldsen
: ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de Emne: Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google On 3 Nov 2014, at 6:43 pm, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) evyn...@cisco.com wrote: [As a side note, it seems that the European 'google' statistics are now more in line with the expectation] Several countries have

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-03 Thread Erik Nygren
For those who haven't seen it, Akamai also launched some similar reporting today based on a cross-section of dual-stacked customer content: http://www.stateoftheinternet.com/ipv6 This also shows the US crossing 10% as well as the same impressive growth in those European countries. Malaysia

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-03 Thread Jaanus Jõgisu
Estonia's growth from a customers point of view - no relations with ISP - Estonia's main ISP Elion (part of Teliasonera) has been using Inteno DG301 as endpoints for a few months now and dual-stack is now being enabled on them. 2014-11-03 17:26 GMT+02:00 Erik Nygren e...@nygren.org: For those

Re: Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-03 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, Estonia has a VERY impressive growth approaching 5%: https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/plotpenetration.php?country=ee I have been driving an IPv6 project in Elion (now called Estonian Telekom) for some time now and this is the result. One of the goals I set for myself was exactly such

Some very nice IPv6 growth as measured by Google

2014-11-02 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
[As a side note, it seems that the European 'google' statistics are now more in line with the expectation] Several countries have recently made good progress dixit Google Apnic (URL are simply a different way of presenting Google data): * US has reached 10%, welcome to the 10%-club *