Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-21 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:41:51 + This is a repeat of my earlier comment to Nick, where I guessed / thought that the minima does not really move. Ad I see it, the issue here is that the best null is the sharpest (narrowest) null. If you want a null to cover something

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-21 Thread Mark Durenberger
it a bit.) Chuck Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:37:15 + To: irca@hard-core-dx.com From: n...@ieee.org Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna If you get ambitious Jim, try a Vactrol termination, like Mark C. used in his Flag antenna. It's amazing how stations fairly far off the exact back end

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-21 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 12:40 21-08-15, you wrote: Nick: See CAPS below Mark Durenberger -Original Message- From: Nick Hall-Patch I haven't had experience with two D-Kaz Mark, but do I gather then that you haven't seen evidence of null steering with the DKaz alone? I HAVEN'T SEEN EVIDENCE OF STEERING,

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-21 Thread Mark Durenberger Mobile
So is the minima actually moving or is the rear-response beamwidth changing? Or is that the same thing? And Nick: (especially in your 1640/1680 example), might there be some skywave in the mix? Makes an Old Novice wonder... KAZ YOUR THOUGHTS ??? ALSO...SEE LAST PARAGRAPH BELOW Mark

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-21 Thread Chuck Hutton
...@gmail.com; fr...@nautel.com Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 15:49:59 -0500 Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna So is the minima actually moving or is the rear-response beamwidth changing? Or is that the same thing? And Nick: (especially in your 1640/1680 example), might there be some skywave

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-21 Thread neilkaz
, 2015 5:01 PM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna Modelling numbers for a 20 x 140 DKAZ to back up what I said:- best null is -42 dB and the -6 dB null width is 72 degrees.- lower the termination by 80 Ohms and the best null

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-21 Thread Chuck Hutton
...@msn.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: RE: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 21:41:51 + This is a repeat of my earlier comment to Nick, where I guessed / thought that the minima does not really move. Ad I see it, the issue here is that the best null is the sharpest

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-21 Thread Chuck Hutton
Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna Chuck, please explain how you are measuring - 6 dB null width. The entire back half of the antenna pattern is down at least 10 dB from beam peak with a DKAZ when measured at a typical elevation angle of 15 deg. 73 KAZ -Original Message

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-20 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
@hard-core-dx.com From: n...@ieee.org Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna If you get ambitious Jim, try a Vactrol termination, like Mark C. used in his Flag antenna. It's amazing how stations fairly far off the exact back end of the antenna get better nulls with a remotely variable

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-20 Thread Mark Durenberger
of the ballpark (great Pest control) and adjacent channels do benefit from that additional nulling. Cheers! Mark Durenberger -Original Message- From: Chuck Hutton Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:47 PM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna Nick

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-20 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
-Original Message- From: Chuck Hutton Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:47 PM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna Nick - Are you saying the DKAZ null can actually be steered? If so, how much?Or are you saying that deepening the null at 180 degrees means

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-19 Thread Mark Connelly via IRCA
---BeginMessage--- The typical end-fed unterminated wire - call it longwire or shortwire but basically anything 50 to 300 ft. - has SLIGHT nulls / minima at a right angle to the wire and slightly more pick-up in the direction heading away from the feedline / receiver (maybe a dB or two). In

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-19 Thread jniven
Hi Neil, Thanks from a happy DKAZ user. The antenna took 3 weekends to build, due to the Texas heat, clearing a path through the trees and gathering all the supplies. I decided to make this a permanent installation, using 4x4 timber posts for the main supports and 2 electrical PVC pipe for the

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-19 Thread Mark Connelly via IRCA
---BeginMessage--- One good sanity check would be to do up a quick and simple SuperLoop. Align it similarly to the DKAZ and put it far enough away so as not to interact. http://www.bamlog.com/superloop.htm http://www.bamlog.com/vartermloop.htm Since this would be mostly for pest-null

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-19 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
If you get ambitious Jim, try a Vactrol termination, like Mark C. used in his Flag antenna. It's amazing how stations fairly far off the exact back end of the antenna get better nulls with a remotely variable termination. At Grayland, it even helped kill the local noise. best wishes,

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-19 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
If you get ambitious Jim, ... Whoops, sorry, James... got to get my names exact, hi. It's been a long day.. best wishes, Nick At 15:29 19-08-15, you wrote: Hi Neil, Thanks from a happy DKAZ user. The antenna took 3 weekends to build, due to the Texas heat, clearing a path through

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-19 Thread Chuck Hutton
it a bit.) Chuck Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:37:15 + To: irca@hard-core-dx.com From: n...@ieee.org Subject: Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna If you get ambitious Jim, try a Vactrol termination, like Mark C. used in his Flag antenna. It's amazing how stations fairly far off the exact

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-18 Thread Mark Connelly via IRCA
---BeginMessage--- DKAZ versus Waller Flag ( http://nx4d10.wix.com/waller-flag ) ... does one do much better than the other? This question is more about directivity than gain since it is assumed that low-noise amplification can be applied as needed to boost weaker signals above the

Re: [IRCA] [NRC-AM] DKAZ Antenna

2015-08-18 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
The next test at Grayland maybe At 03:01 19-08-15, Mark wrote: DKAZ versus Waller Flag ( http://nx4d10.wix.com/waller-flag ) ... does one do much better than the other? This question is more about directivity than gain since it is assumed that low-noise amplification can be applied