Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-04 Thread Mike Irizarry
i have tried both the dx engineering reversible and the kd9sv (available at dx engineering). both work well performance wise. i think the kd9sv is easier to string up because you use a much smaller telephone wire, whereas the dx engineering uses ladder line. the plus with the dx engineering is you

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-03 Thread Mark Pettifor
I have a 1000' spool that I'd like to try, so terminating at the east end isn't feasible. I think leaving it non-terminated is best. I wonder... I am using the ICE beverage transformer at the near end to go from long wire to 50-ohm coax feed into the house, so I'm assuming it can it be termina

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread Neil Kazaross
OK Tim, this is what I recalled as your DU's come of the back end. You're losing at least a couple dB compared to being fed from the east end. This loss is greater in the upper band and helps explain why your BOGs aren't effective for X-band Aussies. 73 KAZ On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Tim Tro

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread Tim Tromp
My BOG wires are 400 FT & 500 FT and spaced roughly 1-1/2 to 2 feet apart. Google Earth tells me the bearing is about 78 / 257 degrees which is 2 degrees off from Sydney. The wires are fed from the west end and are left unterminated at the far end towards the east. The wires have been deployed fo

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread Neil Kazaross
Tim's setup is what I call a Phased BOG System and it is very effective. Note that the BOG should be at least somewhat different in length and/or direction or you will have the same signal on each BOG from every direction and when you phase you'll null almost everything. Tim, please tell us how lo

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread Tim Tromp
Hi Mark, I do exactly what you're trying to do by using a pair of unterminated BOGs (Beverage On the Ground). The parallel BOG wires (via matching transformers and coax) are connected to a phasing box (such as the Quantum Phaser by DX Tools). This will give you east-west reversibility from the s

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread R. Colin Newell
Product placement. :-) Just testing you -- make sure you're awake. Actually -- just suggesting what I know - N/S BEVERAGE... North favoring with N Termination? Change the position of the termination. Colin Newell - CoffeeCrew.com - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC > On Sep 2, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Chuck H

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread Chuck Hutton
Chuck From: IRCA on behalf of R. Colin Newell Sent: Saturday, September 2, 2017 11:55 AM To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America Subject: Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage? Change the location of the termination -- That is what I do with my FLAGS

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread Larry R Fravel
Check out DX Engineering. they have some good stuff for reversible Bogs. Larry K8YYY It's easier to fool people than convince them that they've been fooled. Mark Twain --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ IRCA m

Re: [IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread R. Colin Newell
Change the location of the termination -- That is what I do with my FLAGS using electronic VACTROL's -- the nulls and directional characteristics are breathtaking. Colin Newell - DXer.ca - VA7WWV - Victoria - BC > On Sep 2, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Mark Pettifor wrote: > > What is your favorite way

[IRCA] Favorite reversible beverage?

2017-09-02 Thread Mark Pettifor
What is your favorite way of implementing a reversible beverage? For example, I have a lot of real estate (well, a farmer's field) to my east. Normally I'd run a beverage out there and terminate it at the far end, making it directional to the East. Using the same layout, what's the best way to