Folks,
All that needs to be said on this thread has been said. Let's move on - and
keep it DX-related. NO MORE POSTS ON THIS THREAD!
Lynn.
Lafayette, LA
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Why? It really is running on someone's adjacent channel
Kevin
On May 5, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote:
> Let's knock off the IBAC slang. It's kind of silly and it's
> making us all look bad.
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC
Whatever Barry. None of the professionals that I know call a hot dog a
hamburger, they don't call milk beer, they don't call a chicken a duck,
and they don't call IBOC IBAC. IBAC might better describe the reality of
it.
Barry,
I agree. I do think some CEs that are touchy about negative comments on
IBOC (In Band On Channel), know very well it is flawed from the very
beginning. When one engineer told me "It was crap" off the record, he
went on to say that he had to install it as his bosses told him to. He
has to ke
Gentlemen,
Maybe it is time we move on. The comments from some are getting close to
insulting. IBOC or IBAC? Who cares. To me it is all noise! Whatever
happens, happens. We have no control over it.
73,
Patrick
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Patrick:
Your one liner below said it all, perfectly. Well done!
Paul B. Walker, Jr.
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On 5/6/07, Patrick Martin <[
emperor has no clothes, are
we to just shut our eyes?
Bob Young
Whineston, MA
KB1OKL
>From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
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>Am
Bob,
Complaining about IBOC is one thing, but when people start saying things
that are insulting, is another. So many times in the past, innocent
comments on IBOC have resulted in really nasty e mails from some. Things
are going in that direction again. But again, complain or not complain,
we hav
1. First Ammendment protects unpopular speech, in particular.
2. During the 90s, iBLOC's seminal era, connivers adopted the 'Victim' model.
Victims whine that others - usually knowledgeable parties who've
discovered their
chicanery - are picking on them. They relentlessly play the Victim
Bob -
You and me, many others as well, are 'whining' and will continue to do so.
These bugs can't handle truth. They face rampant consumer apathy and
broadcaster ire for jamming. Like rapists who demand victims not call cops,
they now
try to violate our First Ammendment rights? How very t
Thanks Lynn. Much appreciated.
73,
Patrick
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--- "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Instead of complaining about how bad IBOC is, why don't some of you
> try and
> do something about it? Not like it'll really help anyways, as IBOC's
> "success" is politiclaly and financially motivated by the big
> corporations
> and big poli
IBOC irritates many precisely because little can be done about it. Nulling
proves difficult. One can easily null analog, but nulling digital 'mask' is
nigh
on impossible. Even if you could do so, HD hiss noticeably mars desired
analog broadcasts.
Limiters, blankers, u.s.w. prove ineffectual.
Pete asked: I hate to be dense but everyone else seems to call it IBOC
(for "on channel") so what's the "AC" - at channel?
/
Pete brings up a good point. There is no such thing as IBAC. It's just a
derogatory slang term that some have made up. But, as you can see, it is
confusing. Even worse, I
2007 2:53 PM
To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Subject: Re: [IRCA] IBAC vs IBOC
Pete asked: I hate to be dense but everyone else seems to call it IBOC
(for "on channel") so what's the "AC" - at channel?
/
Pete brings up a good point. There is no such thing as IBAC. It's
At 04:11 PM 5/5/2007 -0700, you wrote:
>Patrick:
>In addition the broadcast engineering lists make frequent use of the term,
>usually to emphasize the fact that adjacent channels get bothered.
>Chuck
Chuck n' Patrick,
I get it: It means "I Bother Adjacent Channels."
72+1 de Charles
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On Saturday 05 May 2007 17:53, Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote:
> Pete brings up a good point. There is no such thing as IBAC. It's just a
> derogatory slang term that some have made up. But, as you can see, it is
> confusing. Even worse, I can see how this could cause certain people to
> s
If any broadcast pros read this or any other medium wave DX reflector I
think that they probably realize we know a lot more than they want anyone to
know about the actual reception problems of this complete and utter failure
and probably can't stand the term IBAC because the truth hurts, especia
Chuck said: IBAC is an acronym used in the engineering world and is
found even in the IEEE (Institute of Electrical Engineers) publications.
/
Actually you left out a very important component of the name Chuck. The
IEEE is the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc. I am
aware o
I'm going to piss some people off, but...
I don't like IBOC, iBAC, IBUZZ or whatever it's called anymore then the rest
of you do, but we all need to realize it's going to happen. DX'ing is just a
hobby, not a way of life. we just need to atop whining, grow up, adjust
with the changing times an
That should've read "stop whining"
I'm a broadcaster and a DX'er so again, I understand how all you
feel. But, I know how to deal with reality.
Paul Walker
On 5/5/07, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> we just need to atop whining
>
>
> --
> Paul B. Walker, Jr.
> www.walk
Whatever Barry. None of the professionals that I know call a hot dog a
hamburger, they don't call milk beer, they don't call a chicken a duck,
and they don't call IBOC IBAC. IBAC might better describe the reality of
it. All I am saying is that is not the name of it. And this is obviously
confusing
Broadcast professionals will think ill of DX'ers who say, 'IBAC'? So? Who
cares?
Are we suffering End-stage Chronic Naivete, complicated by Terminal
Pollyannism?
Earlier today, a post quoted WSM 'broadcast professionals' re IBAC/iBLOC.
They speak for many 'broadcast professionals' when they de
Dismiss us? By their actions and statements, TeamBLOC long ago dismissed all
concerns for the wellbeing of public airwaves and the free flow of ideas and
opinion.
Dismiss us? TeamBLOC reflexively dismisses anyone - let alone dissenters -
anyone who fails to immediately leap aboard the Good Shi
On Saturday 05 May 2007 22:41, Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote:
> Whatever Barry. None of the professionals that I know call a hot dog a
> hamburger, they don't call milk beer, they don't call a chicken a duck,
> and they don't call IBOC IBAC. IBAC might better describe the reality of
> it.
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