--- "Powell E. Way III W4OPW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- Mike McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks
> > it's good for DXing -- to see the "Downgrading" of
> > the clear channels -- into "regional" channels --
> > without the "protec
KAZ,
Right you are. IBOC will not make listeners walk from AM radio, but
run...
Bob's sister & brother in law (not DXers), will not listen to any
station with static or fading. I have an idea many are like that. IBOC
will kill AM radio if it becomes a reality.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Re
or the International Radio Club of America"
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> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KGA degrade
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> >
> > --- Mike McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >> OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks
> >>
Russ,
I saw that 15 years ago going to NAB conventions. The FCC basically does
what the big boys want them to do. That is one reason we have IBOC. The
"old" FCC of the past would never have oked that noise maker, but in
todays world, it ain't your grandfathers radio any longer. hi.
73,
Patrick
Mike,
What stations have you owned?
73,
Patrick
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Mike,
Are you asking from a DXers point of view or a broadcasters point of
view? I don't like to see any old station go away, or change calls, but
unfortunately that is reality in today's world. To me, the FCC blew it
allowing so many stations on the AM band. If we had a 1,000 or so, there
would b
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From: "Neil Kazaross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> The 1070 example shows what happens when the FCC doesn
l Radio Club of America"
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> --- Mike McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks
>> it's good for DXing -- to see the "Downgradin
--- Mike McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks
> it's good for DXing -- to see the "Downgrading" of
> the clear channels -- into "regional" channels --
> without the "protection" -- just so another
> daytimer can get nightime service --- most li
Yes, I have problems with it.
Bill
Mike McKenna wrote:
> Anyone dis-like the idea of KGA downgrading
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Kevin:
Very well said, thank you. I agree and couldn't have said it better
Paul
On 7/27/07, kevin redding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> Many DXers like myself really don't care one bit whether a
> broadcaster ever make a dime. We are more concerned about the
> propagational effects of wave
OK, now that I've re-read Mike's original post, I don't really see that
it was as bad as it was made out to be. Certainly not anti-DX. Just
observations about the way things seem to be going.
The big boys or broadcasting seem to have the FCC under their dominon
pretty much, and the local, smalle
--- Geralyn Hollerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The whole
> thing has the potential to move into a flame war,
> and if that's the case and
> you all can't play nice, the topic gets moderated.
Flame wars are only good during the winter, so you can
heat your house.
Some DX'ers don't understan
--- Mike McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul -- I was under the impression that the IRCA
> was a club for persons that enjoy the hobby of
> Dxing.
It is.
> Am I in the wrong place ???
No you are not.
> I have been
> in the broadcast and radio business for over 40
> years.
So
OK -- So lets get back on topic. --- Who thinks it's good for DXing -- to
see the "Downgrading" of the clear channels -- into "regional" channels --
without the "protection" -- just so another daytimer can get nightime service
--- most likely in some large Metro Area --- like San Francisco,
> all of you who are
> unhappy with Lynn's response to this current exchange, to contact Lynn
> directly off-list as I have done and voice your displeasure.
Patrick,
I am not unhappy at Lynn's response. I do believe that she will do
the right thing and handle things well as she has always done.
Good job Lynn. Keep up the good work!
73- Doug
On Jul 27, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote:
> ... and all of you who are
> unhappy with Lynn's response to this current exchange, to contact Lynn
> directly off-list as I have done and voice your displeasure.
>
> Patrick Gr
Thanks Lynn for stepping in. Yes, please be civil everyone and please
watch the language.
This is getting out of control.
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Lynn said:
Folks,
I'm willing to let this topic proceed for a while in the interest of a
dialog between a broadcaster and DXers, but please, watch your language.
The whole thing has the potential to move into a flame war, and if
that's the case and you all can't play nice, the topic gets moderated
Well here's one way to reply The Wrong Wayon the other hand when say a
Scott Fybush responds with a thoughtful and non-belligerent answer its worth
reading. Paul your love of radio is wonderful but this isn't the first time
you've had issues on a radio mailing list. I suggest you think
Folks,
I'm willing to let this topic proceed for a while in the interest of a dialog
between a broadcaster and DXers, but please, watch your language. The whole
thing has the potential to move into a flame war, and if that's the case and
you all can't play nice, the topic gets moderated.
Lynn.
La
>> Broadcasters will never "own" the radiowaves.
Sure they do. Look at how rarely licenses get yanked for not serving the
public good.
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The Boss has spoken!!
Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote: :
You DX'ers need to stop acting and thinking like the broadcasting community
owes you something, it DOESN'T!
Paul A. LaFreniere, Jr. wrote:
I was sure this was a list for DXers. If you don't like what the DXers say
on this list, get the hell of
Paul -- I was under the impression that the IRCA was a club for persons that
enjoy the hobby of Dxing. Am I in the wrong place ???I have been in the
broadcast and radio business for over 40 years. I have even built and owned a
few broadcast stations. The radio spectrum is a natural reso
Thanks for assuming all AM stations run bland, boring talk that's a mere
assumption and shows ya really don't like AM much and ar ejust grumpy HD and
other technology is ruining your precious hobby.
Why is it up to you to decide if downgrading WOWO or KGA is wrong? It's not.
Its up to the lice
Yup. It seems that the only thing that AM radio is today -- is a lot of talk
-- talk -- talk and all of the programs are the same. You can offer your
"yes" or "no" --but all of you seem to be missing the bottom line. While
Patrick might be able to hear a few more stations -- on 1510
Hi Patrick:
I have been scouring over old FCC records at the National Archives
for the past several weeks. When the stations were originally licensed,
there was a high emphasis placed on serving the public interest and that
meant being involved in the local and regional communities. Many
s
Well, in my opinion, you are just pointing out what is wrong with AM radio.
Anyway, KGA's market is more than just Spokane. It is widely listened to
throughout Eastern Washington and northern Idaho, in the rural areas,
day and night. Scott, yes, the area around Spokane and especially if you
t
Scott,
I totally agree with you. Sure KGA is a historic station. No doubts
there, but what are they doing in programming that a zillion others
aren't doing.? The same old satellite talk programming. At least when
they were C&W, they were different. But talk talk talk is everywhere.
One plus that i
Here in Calgary I can receive KGA on a crystal set any night that
conditions are decent. Almost always the strongest signal of any
US station at night (during the day, KMON-560 has the strongest US
signal into Calgary).
73,
Deane McIntyre VE6BPO
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Powell E. Way III W4OPW wrote:
> --- Bill Harms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Patrick:
>>
>> Maybe from a financial point of view this kind
>> of thing might make sense for the new owners.
>
>
> VERY short sighted sense. They will be getting a
> crippled station. A downgrade to B means th
Hi Bill,
I have heard all three CA stations on 1510. Fresno is the most common
almost heard every LSS, The old KTIM and a zillion other calls, they
were common with 1 KW daytimer. Now with a directional pattern they are
much less common. In the Winter I hear UT also. CO & TN when KGA has
been off.
Bill,
Well it wont be the first great old station that was downgaded. WOWO
1190 was because WLIB wanted more power. It all comes down to money. Few
care about the history of a station. All they care about is the money.
So expect more in the future. So many old neat stations in Canada have
moved to
Pat, I fully understand about opening the channel for DX, but I lament
the fact that they might be doing this. There is a lot of nostalgia and
history involved. It is all about money I suppose. I just hope they
don't do something stupid like change the callsign. When they signed on
in 1927, the
Powell,
I did not know going from an A to a B you would not get 10 KW or more at
night. Well then maybe the frequency will open up for me.
73,
Patrick
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--- Bill Harms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick:
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> Maybe from a financial point of view this kind
> of thing might make sense for the new owners.
VERY short sighted sense. They will be getting a
crippled station. A downgrade to B means that night
power has to be less than 10,000 wat
Patrick:
Maybe from a financial point of view this kind of thing might make
sense for the new owners. However, it negates one of the strong points
of the AM band and that is long distance night time coverage.
Historical, KGA has been one of the top two or three best bests, if not
THE best
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