bout
> overall quality of the list posts as we do about flames. Surely people lose
> interest in the list when they read a hundred posts which don't say much. Not
> all were that way, but almost all were.
>
>
> Chuck> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 04:26:57 -0700> From: [
>To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
>America"
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] KOHI-1600's Underwhelming Signal
>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 03:22:05 -0400
>
>
>
>Well, I'd almost rather have the IBOC thread back.. at least we were
>discussing differe
--- Russ Edmunds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> *** I agree. But maybe you should've been doing what
> I've been doing
> since this one began - deleting most of them
> automatically.
On Yahoo with slow dial up, this is a tedious affair
]:)
Powell
--- "Paul B. Walker, Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I'd almost rather have the IBOC thread back..
> at least we were
> discussing different things each time.. In this KOHi
> thread, y'all are
> whinning aobut the same thing, over and over and
> over again.. it gets
> tiring after a few
> Well, I'd almost rather have the IBOC thread back.. at least we were
> discussing different things each time.. In this KOHi thread, y'all are
> whinning aobut the same thing, over and over and over again.. it gets
> tiring after a few.. minutes
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN, and amen!
Kevin
Gilbert, AZ
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To Paul, Chuck, Powell, Russ and other East Coast DXers,
One of the reasons why KOHI is so intensely interesting to DXers in the
Northwest is because it is a kind of a "perfect storm" of poor signal
conditions (i.e. a mediocre transmitting site, radial problems, terrible
nearby QRM
To Patrick, Chuck, Paul, and the group
Even though I am a Midwesterner with next to no chance
of ever logging KOHI from home, nor from Seattle
during my stay there for a few days in 2003, I still
read each and every e-mail with great interest.
Setting up my amateur radio station during the last
Chuck and Paul,
I hear you. If we want more interesting e mails, we have to post them.
More variety is the spice of life. Apparently a lot of people have been
interested in the KOHI thread, or it would be here. But like anything,
it will run its course too.
By the way, KOHI's signal off the Eas
eople lose
interest in the list when they read a hundred posts which don't say much. Not
all were that way, but almost all were.
Chuck> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 04:26:57 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
irca@hard-core-dx.com> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KOHI-1600's Underwhelm
--- "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Well, I'd almost rather have the IBOC thread back.. at least we were
> discussing different things each time.. In this KOHi thread, y'all
> are
> whinning aobut the same thing, over and over and over again.. it gets
> tiring after a f
Well, I'd almost rather have the IBOC thread back.. at least we were
discussing different things each time.. In this KOHi thread, y'all are
whinning aobut the same thing, over and over and over again.. it gets
tiring after a few.. minutes
At least the IBOC thread was interesting
Paul
On 6/4/07
Powell,
I look at it this way. The discussion is DX worthy, radio related, and
has to do with everything our hobby is. There is no fighting. Sure KOHI
may not be an interest to people in the East, but stations that are
discussed in the East have little interest out West. PSSA powers are
being d
--- Patrick Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Gary,
>
> There is nothing wrong with the discussion of a
> station's signal.
There's not, NORMALLY, but a lot of incorrect
assumptions have gone on and the thread about 200
posts too long.just like the CFL whine that went
on a while
Hello Charles,
Thank you for your comments. Oregon and Washington probably have some
highly qualified engineers with the technical ability to vastly improve
KOHI's signal. Unfortunately, KOHI-1600 seems to be stuck with a mediocre
location, low power, a very poor frequency (with se
At 08:25 PM 6/1/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>Dennis,
>
> Thanks for the report of the S9+ KOHI signal (quite inconceivable
>here). I wonder if Marty has any idea how incredibly popular his station has
>become on the list reflector?
>
> I will send him an email reporting reception here i
Dennis,
Thanks for the report of the S9+ KOHI signal (quite inconceivable
here). I wonder if Marty has any idea how incredibly popular his station has
become on the list reflector?
I will send him an email reporting reception here in Puyallup, but I
will carefully avoid accura
They should've, but didn't..
The move to the expanded done by some stations wasn't just an Apply
and they got it.. it had alot to do with night time interference
studies.
Paul
On 6/1/07, Mike McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> KOHI is one of the stations -- that the FCC and owners -- sh
Gary,
KOHI is S-9+30 db using the H-800 active antenna. Using the Palstar MW550P and
tuning the frequency the S-meters reads S-9+50 db.
Here is the KOHI e-mail address, if you want to send Marty comments on
reception.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dennis,
Vancouver, WA
-- Original message
Mike,
Yes, as close to the X Band as KOHI is, retuning would have been easy.
73,
Patrick
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Opinions expressed in me
KOHI is one of the stations -- that the FCC and owners -- should have bumped --
up to the extended band. A true shame -- since several others that requested
an "extended band" channel -- never filed applications -- after the FCC
granted those requests.
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Mike,
My interest in KOHI has been that I know Forrie Smith as he worked at
KSWB Seaside as News Director until Bob took over. The owner Ken Karge
of KSWB at the time hired Forrie. Then when the opportunity to buy KOHI
came up in the 80s, Ken & Forrie went partners and purchased KOHI.
Forrie the
Gary,
At 9:30 AM, KOHI is under KOPT even off the Eastern beverage. I live 8
miles South of Astoria, and 4 miles South of the City of Warrenton,
halfway between Seaside and Astoria. KOHI has always had a decent signal
here, QRM free during the day, but no longer. KOPT is stronger than they
used
At 07:24 PM 5/31/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello All,
>
> As the one who started the current KOHI-1600 thread, I apologize to
>Charles and other east coast DXers who are bored to death with the
>overexposure
>of this theme.
Nah, youse guys are OK, Gary. I'm following this with a degree
> I suppose as long as the moderator allows us to continue, KOHI-1600
is
> certainly worthy of discussion. Maybe an East Coast DXer can start a
thread
> about a weak, underpowered east coast station, to balance things out a
> little? (hi)
Propagation and the conditions of a station are
If they got a dime for every comment that has been made about them here
recently, they could fire their sales staff!
Patrick Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dennis,
I do remember the S9 signal I had. That used to be "The norm" for KOHI,
but today is was horrible. KOPT was giving it fits e
Patrick,
KOHI's signal was so poor here, and it was such a challenge to log,
that I suppose I have become as fascinated by its charm as you and Dennis
(hi).
As long as the moderator lets us continue, it certainly is an interesting
topic.
If the signal has taken such a dive i
Dennis,
Your report of KOHI's signal disappearing around Castle Rock was very
interesting. When I have time this summer, I plan to check it at various
points on the I-5 corridor, from Olympia to Vancouver. My guess is that the
wispy S1 signal here in South Puget Sound will disappe
Gary,
There is nothing wrong with the discussion of a station's signal. That
is what this list is all about. I have heard other stations through the
years with weakened signals too. One was the old "KVAN 1480". But they
had a good excuse. They were operating with an untuned longwire antenna!
Tha
Patrick,
Thanks for the report on KOHI's weakened signal. Like you and Dennis,
I have come to have a strange interest in this weak-signaled station, which
will probably keep me investigating it for days (whether I report it on the
list, or not).
Regarding the east coast DXers
Gary,
Don't need to apologize. Another man's pest is another man's DX. But the
interesting thing about KOHI is how bad their signal has gotten.
Something is wrong somewhere. They never did have a great signal being
only 1 KW on 1600, but now it is not even listenable with a beverage
aimed at the
Dennis,
I do remember the S9 signal I had. That used to be "The norm" for KOHI,
but today is was horrible. KOPT was giving it fits even off the Eastern
beverage! Something has happened to KOHI's signal.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
_
Hello All,
As the one who started the current KOHI-1600 thread, I apologize to
Charles and other east coast DXers who are bored to death with the
overexposure
of this theme. Actually, when I reported reception of KOHI a couple of days
ago, I expected only a few responses, and was
Pat,
On your band scan in early May you had KOHI with a S-9 signal on your vertical
antenna. Thats a big drop in a 3 week period.
Dennis,
Vancouver, WA
-- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick Martin)
>
>
> I just checked and KOHI's signal has re
Gary,
Earlier this month I drove up to Reid Wheeler home in Olympia to purchase a
couple radios. I listened to KOHI up to Castle Rock and it vanished. That was
about 11 am. That was in the 97 tracer, it has a slopping antenna at 45
degrees and is very directional. Drivers side of the car
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> Patrick, Dennis and All,
>
> KOHI's wispy daytime signal here in the south
> Puget Sound area seems
> completely related to the "salt water effect."
> Driving inland, even for a few
> miles, makes the S1 signal disappear completely,
> leaving on
I just checked and KOHI's signal has really dropped off of late. Even
off the Eastern beverage aimed at them, I get S5 and QRM from KOPT. Off
the WNW EWE is is all KVRI. The SW EWE and vertical gets a jumble. So at
this time KOHI is hardly listenable and I am 60-65 miles from them.
73,
Patrick
Patrick, Dennis and All,
KOHI's wispy daytime signal here in the south Puget Sound area seems
completely related to the "salt water effect." Driving inland, even for a few
miles, makes the S1 signal disappear completely, leaving only KVRI. It's a
very tough daytime catch here in Pu
quot;Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America"
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] KOHI-1600's Underwhelming Signal
Dennis,
I have no doubts that west coast dxers have heard KOHI from time to time but
my contention was with "a regular list
ennis
> > >
> > > I found it interesting that someone in Arizona heard KOHI so far I have
> > > not
> > heard them. The stations that I have heard on 1600 are KYBC, KXEW, KGST,
> > KAHZ,
> > KEPN, KRKE and KXTA. Bill Block
> > > Prescott Valley, AZ
Gary,
I considered moving to the St. Helens are at one time many years ago.
But it is a beautiful area. Some of the Portland stations are shadowed
so they are not all that strong there.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
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In driving through St. Helen's after dark a few years ago, KOHI was on
for a local ball game. I was surprised how the signal did go N/S pretty
well along the Columbia River. The signal was decent from Columbia City
3 miles North of St. Helens to Scappoose 3 or 4 miles South of St.
Helens. Their 1
--- Patrick Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A boost to 50
> or 100 watts ND at
> night might be possible If they were to move their
> tower closer to the
> Columbia River, their coverage would probably be
> better.
But that's not going to happen. All of the stations
that have "flea" powers
Patrick and Dennis,
The consensus seems to be that distant DXers had a decent shot at KOHI
before the arrival of KVRI, and before its unfavorable change in transmitter
location. The current situation (and signal) seem miserable indeed.
By the way, Patrick, I visited St. Helens
Paul,
The previous owners were not interested in a frequency or power boost
anyway. They were just interested in serving the St. Helens area.
73,
Patrick
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With both KVRI and KOPT, it is doubtful that KOHI could be more power at
night ND, but anything is possible. In checking KOPT and KVRI, both
protect KOHI at night it looks like. A boost to 50 or 100 watts ND at
night might be possible If they were to move their tower closer to the
Columbia River
Just because they "maybe" should've moved, doesn't mean they could.
Stations getting expanded band allocations was alot more complicated
then them just applying for it
Paul
\
On 5/31/07, Patrick Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Gary,
>
> Also ground conductivity is not all that great i
I highly doubt KOHI would be able to get a power increase without
adding additional towers.
Stations nearby on 1590 and 1600, while they may appear to be far away
to some of you.. if KOHI were to increase power, there would be
prohibited overlap . KOHI has to protect adjacent
channels...
Dennis,
You are right, most people do listen to FM about 90% or more. In the
ratings, KAST was the top AM one, but the rest mentioned in the article
were FM, including #1, KMUN.
I think KOHI used to have a better signal in the days when the
station was located in downtown St. Helens, right n
Pat,
Your probably right about the KOHI power increase at night. I have heard the
current ground system at the present location is bad. Maybe if they can get
the antenna moved to a better location the signal will improve? They had an
auction last Saturday to raise funds for the Saint Hele
Nick,
Just got out the old log book from the SF Bay Area and I did not hear them, but
did hear KASH 1600, Eugene OR on 8-18-67.
Dennis,
Vancouver, WA
-- Original message --
From: Nick Hall-Patch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> At 01:58 31/05/2007, you wrote:
>
>
> >
em. The stations that I have heard on 1600 are KYBC, KXEW, KGST,
> KAHZ,
> KEPN, KRKE and KXTA. Bill Block
> > Prescott Valley, AZ
> >
> >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com> Date: Wed, 30 May
> 2007 20:40:10 +>
Gary,
Forrie, the pasted owner made the comments about being heard in North Western
Europe, at the time they did not have web broadcasting. In December there is a
dark path to that part of the world at around 6 am PST.
I wonder about the Arizona claim to? The main inteference here is KOPT E
Gary,
Also ground conductivity is not all that great in St. Helens. Surrounded
by mountains doesn't help. If they moved up a couple notches to the X
Band, at least they could have 10 KW days. Maybe they should have moved.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager
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>I would be very interested to know how many
> list subscribers outside of Oregon and Washington have actually logged
> this
> miserably weak station.
KOHI used to be an easy one to log up here before the days of KVRI. I QSL'd
it in '83 at the start of their broadcast day. Dunno about now t
Patrick and Nick,
With KVRI out of the picture, I could certainly understand how KOHI
could be heard at long distances. But when such a strong "pest" is blanketing
the frequency nonstop, KOHI's current prospects seem poor indeed. Of all the
Portland area stations (except for the g
At 01:58 31/05/2007, you wrote:
>Dennis,
>
> KOHI's weak signal makes me wonder if the Arizona and European claims
>weren't for the Internet audio. I would be very interested to know how many
>list subscribers outside of Oregon and Washington have actually logged this
>miserably weak s
and KXTA. Bill Block
> Prescott Valley, AZ
>
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007
> > 20:40:10 +0000> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KOHI-1600's Underwhelming Signal> > > >
> > Gary,> > Nice catch on KOHI. On
Gary,
Many years ago before KVRI came on, KOHI used to be reported, but with
KVRI with 50 KW, KOHI does not get out like they used to.
73,
Patrick
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Gary,
Here, if you tune to 630, you hear KCIS/KWRO. As you get right on the
water it becomes KWRO/KCIS in areas. I live a mile from the ocean here,
but it does make somewhat of a difference when you are right on the
water with coastal signals. I have noticed inland signals like KOHI may
get weak
Dennis,
KOHI's weak signal makes me wonder if the Arizona and European claims
weren't for the Internet audio. I would be very interested to know how many
list subscribers outside of Oregon and Washington have actually logged this
miserably weak station. KVRI's strong signal even m
Dennis,
When I lived in NW Portland in the 70s and then had the apt 96-99, KOHI
put in a decent signal into NW Portland, but St. Helens is not all that
far. Once you got downtown, KOHI was pretty much lost on the car radio
with the noise level.
73,
Patrick
Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manag
Dennis,
Unless KOHI wants a directional pattern, I really doubt they will get
much of a power boost at night. 1600 is already a very busy channel.
73,
Patrick
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heard KOHI so far I have not
> heard them. The stations that I have heard on 1600 are KYBC, KXEW, KGST,
> KAHZ,
> KEPN, KRKE and KXTA. Bill Block
> Prescott Valley, AZ
>
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007
> 20:40:
: Wed, 30 May 2007
> 20:40:10 +> Subject: Re: [IRCA] KOHI-1600's Underwhelming Signal> > > >
> Gary,> > Nice catch on KOHI. On the car radio KOHI is hard to hear in
> Portland, unless your near the Columbia river. Their recent sign-on
> announcement at
Dennis wrote:
I have noticed lately that a few stations around here (KEX, KOHI) are
touting their listen live web sites. KEX says that if you can't hear us on
your radio at the office, you can listen on-line.
==
and in most offices I am familiar with, IT is busy ensuring p
Gary,
Nice catch on KOHI. On the car radio KOHI is hard to hear in Portland, unless
your near the Columbia river. Their recent sign-on announcement at 5:58 am PDT
daily mentions that at night their 50-12.5 watts. During former owner Forrie
Smith one hour talk program on Fridays he mentione
Patrick and Dennis,
KOHI-1600 actually has a very poor signal here on daytime groundwave,
but I did notice something interesting, related to the superiority of
salt-water beach DX locations (like Patrick's).
As weak as KOHI-1600 is at my house about 4 miles from a Puget Sound
Gary,
Thanks for the signal report from up North. Now today KOHI seemed
weaker than they were the other day, like they were on lower power. But
KOHI has always put in a fair signal here during the day at 60 air
miles. At night with 12 watts I have only heard them once I think. That
might change
Hello All,
With all the list publicity given by Patrick and Dennis to KOHI-1600's
miserable signal, I couldn't resist trying for it myself.
In daytime ground wave reception here in Puyallup, WA (about 100 air
miles to the north) KOHI is practically inaudible, getting smothered
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