Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-30 Thread Patrick Martin
Martin, I have heard this from the power companies. However, with the increase in so many items that use power, it seems a bit overkill. But I don't care to guess which CFLs do or do not caue RFI, so I will stick with regular bulbs. I don't use many anyway. Right now as I type this, I have 1-40 wa

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-30 Thread Martin Foltz
't last that long. I just hope most people will dispose of them properly and I also hope that they find something better in the future. Martin Foltz Mission Viejo CA > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:24:48 -0500 > From: Tim Kridel > To: > Subject: Re: [IRCA] noise issue update > &

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-30 Thread Patrick Martin
I never tried the buttons other than years ago, I used them at a Disco for flashing lights. They worked well for that. Not a good idea for DXers though. hi. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.co

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Hills
Those buttons have diodes in them but they tended to short across the junction making them useless other than as a spacer. On 6/29/2011 16:40, Patrick Martin wrote: They also used to make a button shaped item you could put into the socket to cut the volage down getting to the bulb. I don't know

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-30 Thread Patrick Martin
CFLs have had a lot of hype in their ads. I have two early ones that Pacific Power sent out for free to try to get people to switch to them. Those two put carriers all over the dial from the one I tried in my radio room, so I decided then to stick with regular bulbs. I only run a couple bulbs at a

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Kridel
I've been using CFLs for about 10 years and have never noticed an increase in QRM. In fact, I have six in my shack, and two are less than a foot from my radios. CFLs do seem to make a significant dent in electricity consumption when there's a house full of them. The downside is that in my experien

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Patrick Martin
A lot of my bulbs get little use, so they last for years. A few get replaced more than once a year, but not many. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/lis

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Mike Hawkins
I have changed one lightbulb in the past three years. If you don't need it on, don't turn it on. If you turn it on and off a lot, you are killing it one flick at a time so leave it on for the day. Mike Hawkins On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Patrick Martin wrote: > I doubt I use 30 bulbs a y

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Patrick Martin
They also used to make a button shaped item you could put into the socket to cut the volage down getting to the bulb. I don't know if those as available nowdays or not. Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Craig Healy
>> This type of bulb is used on tower sidelights. It'll be >> available for many years, even after household use is >> prohibited. But, I am squirreling away incandescent >> myself. I just don't like the fluorescent versions. > > How does this bulb compared in size to a regular bulb > and cost? Si

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Patrick Martin
Powell, I would want something no more than 75 watts as the heat that the bulb produces above that is too high for the dual sockets in the ceiling. The limit is 75 watts. I have used 60 watt (2) in the past and they work, but the two 75 watters are a bit brighter. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin S

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Powell E. Way III
I bought a CASE of Duro Test 116 watt marker lamps marked as 100 watters for a song. These bulbs are rated at 8000 hours. Clear. If you saw the bulb you'd  understand why they last that long, but normally go for a lot of money for ONE lamp.  I used to use them where it was a very unsafe ordeal

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Powell E. Way III
I don't have ANY incandescent lamps in use except for a couple small diameter candlelabra styled lamps. Incandescent light is a very INaccurate poor color rendering light.   You can get CFL lamps with colors at 2600 (Reveal) 2700, 3000 3500, 41000, 5000, 5500,6000 and 6500 kelvin.  The GE Revea

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Patrick Martin
>>This type of bulb is used on tower sidelights. It'll be available for many years, even after household use is prohibited. But, I am squirreling away incandescents myself. I just don't like the fluorescent versions.<< How does this bulb compared in size to a regular bulb and cost? Patrick Patr

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Patrick Martin
I doubt I use 30 bulbs a year, being the only person in the house, but I fiqure at least a dozen. Over 300+ bulbs should last me 20-30 years anyway. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http:/

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Craig Healy
I remember from many years ago hearing about 130 volt bulbs so I went searching on Google. Found the below information and several places to purchase them. "130 Volt bulbs average 5600 life hours when used on a 120 Volt line. 200 watt bulbs average 5000 life hours. All other bulbs average 750 to

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Tom Dimeo
I remember from many years ago hearing about 130 volt bulbs so I went searching on Google. Found the below information and several places to purchase them. "130 Volt bulbs average 5600 life hours when used on a 120 Volt line. 200 watt bulbs average 5000 life hours. All other bulbs average 750

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-29 Thread Russ Johnson
When this stupid law became known a few years ago, I kept track of my usage for a year and found that my 2000 sq ft home consumed about 30 bulbs (60 w) over those 12 months. Your mileage may vary I assume. I bought 24 bulbs on any trip to Lowe's until I got about a 12 year supply squirreled away

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Patrick Martin
I probably could sell off what I don't need. As wih many, I also don't like the light the CFL's put out. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irc

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Mike Hawkins
You can sell off what you don't need to the collectors on eBay and fund your retirement! Mike Hawkins On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Patrick Martin wrote: > I just checked and with the 40w/60w/75w blubs, I have somewhere between > 350-400. I am 62, so plenty to last me the rest of my life. I

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Patrick Martin
I just checked and with the 40w/60w/75w blubs, I have somewhere between 350-400. I am 62, so plenty to last me the rest of my life. I may get a couple more packs of the 40w for my lanps though. I don't have many extra 40w. I presume the 25w ones from fridges & stoves will continue to be made.

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Patrick Martin
Ross, I totally agree. It is all bull anyway. We will allow more radio stations on the air wasting power to few listeners and yet we are supposed to conserve. I have well over 100 bulbs I am sure. Local Costco and Home Depot still has them as well as Fred Meyer and Rite Aid. Not as many, but at le

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Robert S.Ross VA3SW
On 28/06/2011 10:00 PM, Patrick Martin wrote: Russ, Thanks for the update. I guess the info I had changed. I don't know exactly how many bulbs I will need for the next 25-30 years, but I have quite a few. I don't use 100 watters, but 60& 75 and on occasion a 40. Of course we could always mail o

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Patrick Martin
Russ, Thanks for the update. I guess the info I had changed. I don't know exactly how many bulbs I will need for the next 25-30 years, but I have quite a few. I don't use 100 watters, but 60 & 75 and on occasion a 40. Of course we could always mail order for them from Canada or Mexico. :-) Patric

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Tim Hills
Old trick on that one, making filaments last longer that is. A diode in series with the center conductor drops the wattage of a 100W bulb to about 82W and they last many times longer. Tungsten increases in resistance as it gets hotter so even though the RMS voltage is 1/2, the current is highe

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Russ Edmunds
/28/11, Patrick Martin wrote: > From: Patrick Martin > Subject: Re: [IRCA] noise issue update > To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" > > Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2011, 3:18 PM > I heard the old bulbs will not be > sold past 2018 here, exce

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread Patrick Martin
I heard the old bulbs will not be sold past 2018 here, except the odd sizes. But the 40-60-75-100w units will be history. But I still have 6 or 7 years to stock up more. Home Depot has good prices on them, plus the Dollar stores, 4 bulbs for a dollar there. I have tryed the expensive bulbs and the

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-28 Thread BARRY DAVIES
Same here in particular the 150 Watt filaments which are now deemed illegal to sell. over here!. Best wishes Barry :-) --- On Mon, 27/6/11, Patrick Martin wrote: From: Patrick Martin Subject: Re: [IRCA] noise issue update To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Cl

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Who cares about a few extra watts with the FCC allowing more AM & FM stations and they add a lot more than the few of us. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.co

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Russ Johnson
ICF 2010's barefoot > > > --- On Mon, 6/27/11, Russ Johnson wrote: > > > From: Russ Johnson > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] noise issue update > > To: rte...@pobox.com, "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of > America" > > Date: Monday, June 27, 201

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Russ Edmunds
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Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Patrick Martin
I have heard the LEDs are noisy too. The old tryed and true bulbs are still throughout my house. I have stored a lot of them, so if they quit making them, I still will have them for years. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA m

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Rene, I remember the station in Reedsport OR boosting from 10 to 50 KW just to cover their listening area as the powerline noise is so horrible. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://mo

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Russ Johnson
I have avoided CFLs just for the noise factor. I purchased a couple of LED bulbs (yes, pricey) recently. While they seem to have a lot of advantages, I was disappointed to see that they generated noise up to about 3 feet. On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Rene Tetro wrote: > Fluorescent light

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Patrick Martin
Unless we move on to acreage and have underground powerlines, there is always the possibility of noise, but most of us cannot do that, so we live with noise. I have been very lucky the last 30 years out here as noise has been rare. Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Rene Tetro
Fluorescent lights have always been a source of RF pollution, however. So they probably made the situation worse by moving to them. I have never allowed fluorescent lighting in my houses for that very reason. Unfortunately, the world is moving away from incandescent to fluorescent because of the

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Colin Newell
My favorite DX spot -- at the Hale Kona Kai Condos -- right next to the Pacific Ocean on the Big Island of Hawaii -- is a WALL of noise from about 1800 local to 2300 local. Often S9 signals -- all sounding very "SCR speed control and light dimmer" like. Is ironic that all the lighting there has b

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread Patrick Martin
A light dimmer can be turned down and not off and the owner may not even know it. I doubt this 92 year old man is a DXer either. hi. But unless a DXer wants to move miles away from people, they are stuck with noise. This noise drops off once you get above 1000 kHz, and shows up a bit in 60 meters,

Re: [IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-27 Thread BARRY DAVIES
Dimmers are the kiss of death for AM over here.Surely they would not be switched on 24/7?  Well done on the sortie to the carport light without any cops attending hi! Best wishes Barry :-) --- On Sun, 26/6/11, Patrick Martin wrote: From: Patrick Martin Subject: [IRCA] noise issue

[IRCA] noise issue update

2011-06-26 Thread Patrick Martin
My neighbor was gone today, so I went over with a portable and unplugged the light in the carport briefly and the noise was still there, so not that. I seem to remember that the previous owner has light dimmers and there could be one on. Again, just a guess. But I still do not know. But it is no