Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-21 Thread Zachary Gramana
On 6/20/2011 11:53 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: Yes, but I think everyone chooses the same path you do (rebuild/resign). At least, I'm pretty sure that's what Resolver One does (I don't know of any other apps ... maybe we need a "Who's Using?" page). SharpDevelop does the same as well. Not to mention

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-21 Thread Slide
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Markus Schaber wrote: > Hi, Jeff, > > > > For embedding, I would recommend you continue what you're doing - it's > > just just straight-up safer. It's a shame zipimport doesn't work; we > could > > cut the deployed size of the stdlib down significantly. > > Hmm.

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Vernon, Von: Vernon Cole We Ubuntu users are still very inconvenienced by that quick "we don't build" answer. Thanks for fixing the builder so that I can _try_ to home-build a .NET 2 version.  After killing and reinstalling my Ubuntu system, I gave up trying to actually accomplish it. It r

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Jeff, > Von: Jeff Hardy [mailto:jdha...@gmail.com] > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Markus Schaber software.com> wrote: > > Are there no 3rd-party applications which embed and install IronPython > > with their own installer? > > > > Being afraid of such scenarios was the main reason why we

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Slide
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Slide wrote: > > I didn't see an issue filed for the zimport missing, am I just missing it > in > > the bug tracker? > > http://ironpython.codeplex.com/workitem/391 > > Yikes, that's a low number, and high vot

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Slide wrote: > I didn't see an issue filed for the zimport missing, am I just missing it in > the bug tracker? http://ironpython.codeplex.com/workitem/391 Yikes, that's a low number, and high votes. Anybody want to tackle this one? I've got a big sack of interne

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Slide
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Markus Schaber > wrote: > > Are there no 3rd-party applications which embed and install IronPython > > with their own installer? > > > > Being afraid of such scenarios was the main reason why we build > > Iron

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Vernon Cole wrote: > We Ubuntu users are still very inconvenienced by that quick "we don't build" > answer. Thanks for fixing the builder so that I can _try_ to home-build a > .NET 2 version.  After killing and reinstalling my Ubuntu system, I gave up > trying to a

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Jimmy Schementi wrote: > > Jeff, do you know what's blocking zipimport from working? Well, zipimport is a C module in CPython. There is a pure-Python version[1], but I've never tried it. Now that zlib is supported it should work fine. - Jeff [1] http://code.goog

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Jimmy Schementi
On Jun 20, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > > For embedding, I would recommend you continue what you're doing - it's > just just straight-up safer. It's a shame zipimport doesn't work; we > could cut the deployed size of the stdlib down significantly. How about pre-compiling your python fi

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Vernon Cole
We Ubuntu users are still very inconvenienced by that quick "we don't build" answer. Thanks for fixing the builder so that I can _try_ to home-build a .NET 2 version. After killing and reinstalling my Ubuntu system, I gave up trying to actually accomplish it. It requires installing a second versio

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-20 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Markus Schaber wrote: > Are there no 3rd-party applications which embed and install IronPython > with their own installer? > > Being afraid of such scenarios was the main reason why we build > IronPython on our own (with changed assembly name and signing key) and

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-19 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Jeff, > Von: Jeff Hardy [mailto:jdha...@gmail.com] > >> I figure if MS can do it with the .NET service packs, then we can too. > > :) > > > > .NET service packs run a lower risc of being downgraded silently by an > > installer unconditionally writing the old version into the GAC. :-( > > Onl

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-17 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Markus Schaber wrote: > Ok. But at least you should update the FileVersion then, or give some > other visible indicator that allows at least manual diagnostics which > version actually is installed. Oh, of course! Only AssemblyVersion will remain the same. > >>

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-17 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Jeff, > Von: Jeff Hardy [mailto:jdha...@gmail.com] > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Markus Schaber software.com> wrote: > > Fine, I'm looking forward to it. Is this release still compileable > > using .NET 2.0? > > It should be, although I haven't tested that lately. Fine. > >> The mai

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-17 Thread Jeff Hardy
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:58 PM, Markus Schaber wrote: > Fine, I'm looking forward to it. Is this release still compileable using > .NET 2.0? It should be, although I haven't tested that lately. > >> The main reason for this release is to get the newly supported modules >> (unicodedata, _ast, c

Re: [Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-16 Thread Markus Schaber
Hi, Jeff, Von: Jeff Hardy > > I'm planning to release a Beta of IronPython 2.7.1 for this weekend (June > 18-19). I haven't decided on a timeline for the final release, but expect > it to be about 3 weeks later. Bug fixes will still be accepted after the > beta is released, but the sooner, the be

[Ironpython-users] IronPython 2.7.1 Beta coming this weekend

2011-06-16 Thread Jeff Hardy
I'm planning to release a Beta of IronPython 2.7.1 for this weekend (June 18-19). I haven't decided on a timeline for the final release, but expect it to be about 3 weeks later. Bug fixes will still be accepted after the beta is released, but the sooner, the better. The main reason for this releas