Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-11 Thread Michael McCandless
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Grant Ingersollgsing...@apache.org wrote: Or... and this is one crazy idea... maybe we should simply release 3.0 next, not removing any deprecated APIs until 3.1 or later.  Ie, normal software on having so many major changes would release an X.0 release; I

2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Aug 10, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Michael Busch wrote: I think we should change the backwards-compatibility policy as proposed in LUCENE-1698 and remove some deprecated things (inlcuding the old TokenStream API, maybe query parser) in 3.1, not 3.0. Maybe. I'm not convinced yet that the

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Michael Busch
You didn't really comment on my proposal: I suggested to not remove the old Token API and old queryparser in 3.0. Instead with 3.0 change the bw-policy, so that we can remove deprecated things in minor releases (e.g. 3.1 in this case). I think your 2.5 proposal has drawbacks: if we release

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Aug 10, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Michael Busch wrote: You didn't really comment on my proposal: I suggested to not remove the old Token API and old queryparser in 3.0. Instead with 3.0 change the bw-policy, so that we can remove deprecated things in minor releases (e.g. 3.1 in this case).

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Michael Busch
On 8/10/09 1:30 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: I think your 2.5 proposal has drawbacks: if we release 2.5 now to test the new major features in the field, then do you want to stop adding new features to trunk until we release 2.9 to not have the same situation then again? How long should this

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Earwin Burrfoot
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 00:37, Michael Buschbusch...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/10/09 1:30 PM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: I think your 2.5 proposal has drawbacks: if we release 2.5 now to test the new major features in the field, then do you want to stop adding new features to trunk until we release

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Michael McCandless
I do agree 2.9 has tons of changes: new analysis API, segment-based searching/collection/sorting, new QP, etc. One option might be to have a looong beta period for 2.9, and focus on testing/docs? Or... and this is one crazy idea... maybe we should simply release 3.0 next, not removing any

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Shai Erera
Does this mean we still move to Java 5 in 3.0? If so, +1 from me too. On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote: Michael McCandless wrote: Or... and this is one crazy idea... maybe we should simply release 3.0 next, not removing any deprecated APIs until 3.1

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Mark Miller
You'll sell your vote for pork? :) If by some miracle we went with this, with so many back compat issues with this update, I don't see why we wouldn't throw Java 1.5 in as well. That just complicates things here though. I'd save that discussion. Shai Erera wrote: Does this mean we still move

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Michael Busch
On 8/10/09 2:05 PM, Michael McCandless wrote: Or... and this is one crazy idea... maybe we should simply release 3.0 next, not removing any deprecated APIs until 3.1 or later. Ie, normal software on having so many major changes would release an X.0 release; I agree the deprecation release is

Re: 2.5 versus 2.9, was Re: who clears attributes?

2009-08-10 Thread Grant Ingersoll
On Aug 10, 2009, at 18:48, Michael Busch busch...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/10/09 2:05 PM, Michael McCandless wrote: Or... and this is one crazy idea... maybe we should simply release 3.0 next, not removing any deprecated APIs until 3.1 or later. Ie, normal software on having so many major