Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-09 Thread Joseph Shraibman
Hui Huang wrote: Still not convinced? Try creating more than 1024 threads, that's something you couldn't do without NPTL. There has been a lot of work done in the past to make this happen. Drop me an email if you'd like to hear more about the boring story of threading support within JVM ;-) I do t

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-07 Thread Jesus M. Salvo Jr.
Hui Huang wrote: No, that's not true. Both JDK 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 from Sun support NPTL. Well that certainly is good news. I am currently still stuck with RH 7.2 ( grin! ) and would like to move to RH9 ... but thought I could not yet because the JVMs would have to support NPTL. Apart from

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Hui Huang
Christopher Smith wrote: Juergen Kreileder wrote: Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:29, John Neffenger wrote: Hi Bill, Also, 2.5.x Linux has changes to their 1:1 model that greatly increases scalability for dealing with a large number of thread

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread shudo
> > Yes (our AMD64 version will be ready for our 1.4.2 release) > > Do you mean Blackdown's 1.4.2 exploits 64-Bit Mode of AMD64? > Was the adaptation made by Sun or Blackdown? > I cannot find a version of J2SE exploiting the 64-Bit Modde on the > J2SE download page in java.sun.com. Blackdown Off

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:30, Calvin Austin wrote: > I hope you guys are not confusing NGPT with NPTL :*) > > All JVMs can support NPTL with little or no change, NPTL is still an ongoing > project but you can see a difference already with Redhat 9 and Suns 1.4.2beta, > 1.4.1 will also work. I have

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Hui
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 10:57:46PM -0700, John Neffenger wrote: > Hi Juergen, > Do you mean that the Sun and Blackdown native-thread HotSpot Server VMs > will be able to go right up to 10,000 connections (about 20,000 threads) > right out of the box on Red Hat Linux 9? (On Red Hat Linux 8.0, th

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Christopher Smith
Juergen Kreileder wrote: Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:29, John Neffenger wrote: Hi Bill, Also, 2.5.x Linux has changes to their 1:1 model that greatly increases scalability for dealing with a large nu

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread shudo
From: Juergen Kreileder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > John Neffenger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think I can compare 32-bit and 64-bit on the same machine if I go > > the AMD route, right? > > Yes (our AMD64 version will be ready for our 1.4.2 release) Do you mean Blackdown's 1.4.2 exploits 64-Bi

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Hui Huang
John Neffenger wrote: Hi Bill, Also, 2.5.x Linux has changes to their 1:1 model that greatly increases scalability for dealing with a large number of threads. I was under the impression that Java application developers will have to wait for the Java virtual machines to take advantage of those t

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread John Neffenger
Hi Juergen, I'm not if anyone working on the blackdown project is planning to get support for NPTL in ahead of Sun or IBM. It already works. Do you mean that the Sun and Blackdown native-thread HotSpot Server VMs will be able to go right up to 10,000 connections (about 20,000 threads) right out

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Hui Huang
Christopher Smith wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:29, John Neffenger wrote: Hi Bill, Also, 2.5.x Linux has changes to their 1:1 model that greatly increases scalability for dealing with a large number of threads. I was under the impression that Java application developers will have to wait for

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Juergen Kreileder
John Neffenger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think I can compare 32-bit and 64-bit on the same machine if I go > the AMD route, right? Yes (our AMD64 version will be ready for our 1.4.2 release) but, of course, you can't make assumptions about the performance differences between 32-bit and 64-b

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Juergen Kreileder
Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:29, John Neffenger wrote: >> Hi Bill, >> >> > Also, 2.5.x Linux has changes to their 1:1 model that greatly >> > increases scalability for dealing with a large number of threads. >> >> I was under the impression that Java a

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 19:29, John Neffenger wrote: > Hi Bill, > > > Also, 2.5.x Linux has changes to their 1:1 model that greatly increases > > scalability for dealing with a large number of threads. > > I was under the impression that Java application developers will have to > wait for the Java

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread John Neffenger
Hi Bill, Also, 2.5.x Linux has changes to their 1:1 model that greatly increases scalability for dealing with a large number of threads. I was under the impression that Java application developers will have to wait for the Java virtual machines to take advantage of those threading changes before

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread John Neffenger
Ciao Marco, - you tested Blackdown-1.3.1 using green threads, but Sun JVM used native threads. In Linux this makes a huge difference in terms of thread scalability with one CPU. It should be useful to show the Linux Sun 1.3.1 JVM results with -green option. That's an easy test result to add. :)

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-04 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 04:17, Bill Huey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:49:28AM +0200, Marco Trevisan wrote: > > In my opinion: > > > > - you tested Blackdown-1.3.1 using green threads, but Sun JVM used > > native threads. In Linux this makes a huge difference in terms of thread > > scalability

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-03 Thread Hui
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 11:49:28AM +0200, Marco Trevisan wrote: > In my opinion: > > - you tested Blackdown-1.3.1 using green threads, but Sun JVM used > native threads. In Linux this makes a huge difference in terms of thread > scalability with one CPU. It should be useful to show the Linux Sun >

Re: Volano Report update

2003-06-03 Thread Marco Trevisan
Hello all, John Neffenger wrote: > the Java platforms couldn't even make it past 500 connections, so > we've come a long way! Let me know if you see any tricks or > command-line options I missed that would be helpful. In my opinion: - you tested Blackdown-1.3.1 using green threads, but Sun JVM

Volano Report update

2003-06-01 Thread John Neffenger
I updated our VolanoMark benchmark test results yesterday, comparing 17 Java virtual machines and four operating systems on identical hardware: The Volano Report http://www.volano.com/report/index.html It's a new, faster version of VolanoMark running on faster hardware, updated operating sys