Re: [JAVA3D] Java 3D application distribution for WinNT

2000-09-21 Thread Pasi Paasiala
You don't even need a batch file. You can create a shortcut from java or javaw to the desktop and give it correct command line arguments. Your users won't know that they are using a Java application unless they peek into the properties of the shortcut. You can also use InstallAnywhere or InstallSh

Re: [JAVA3D] Java3D Benchmark Thoughts

2000-09-21 Thread Justin Couch
Jim Schatzman wrote: > Is anyone interested in organizing a suite of benchmarks, maybe putting a > shell around a set of 2-3 with a simple, consistent output? Anyone who > could distribute such a benchmark suite through their website? I'd be quite happy to put the software and results up on j3d

[JAVA3D] 3D Caves and Java3D??

2000-09-21 Thread Jim Schatzman
I have been assured by some Cave vendors that only SGI boxes can control Cave projectors, and only with exotic software. I am familiar with the traditional Cave technology. Can you give some references for information about Cave projector hardware and software using Java3D? Could a set of PC-clon

[JAVA3D] Java3D Benchmark Thoughts

2000-09-21 Thread Jim Schatzman
I think the idea of having the Java3D community publish a benchmark (or series of benchmarks) is a very good idea. Together, we would then compile tables of benchmark data and we would be able to get an accurate picture of performance on a wide variety of platforms. The activity just might convinc

Re: [JAVA3D] Java3D & Browsers

2000-09-21 Thread Frank C.P. Hsu
you can refer to: http://www.j3d.org/faq/browser.html Edith Lovos wrote: > Hello, > my question is > what java plug in must be downloaded into the browser to run Java3D applets? Where >can i find it? > Iam using Internet Explorer. > thanks a lot > Edith > > =

Re: [JAVA3D] high performance graphics on a laptop?

2000-09-21 Thread Justin Couch
Evan Drumwright wrote: > Is there *any* way to get near GeForce performance out of a laptop, assuming > price is not an object? Based on my current investigations: No. There would be a very, very slim chance if you could get techinical info from both the notebook manufacturer and the graphics ca

[JAVA3D] Java3D & Browsers

2000-09-21 Thread Edith Lovos
Hello, my question is what java plug in must be downloaded into the browser to run Java3D applets? Where can i find it? Iam using Internet Explorer. thanks a lot Edith === To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and

Re: [JAVA3D] Picking an object [Was: Shape3D.intersect, how to turn on on?]

2000-09-21 Thread Manu Eapen Varghese
Hi Kovalan, You have to set the capability on a Geometry object. You can use the getGeometry() method of class Shape3D. So it should look like: box.getShape(Box.BACK).getGeometry().setCapability(Geometry.ALLOW_INTERSECT); // and so on. Regards, Manu. On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Kovalan Muniandy wrote

Re: [JAVA3D] null pointer error

2000-09-21 Thread Kelvin Chung
Hi Will, Bug 4373122 is filed for investigation. Thanks for your bug report. - Kelvin - Java 3D Team Sun Microsystems Inc. >X-Unix-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Sep 20 20:41:17 2000 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 22:35:26 -0500 >From: Will Holcomb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [JAVA3D] Picking an object [Was: Shape3D.intersect, how to turn on on?]

2000-09-21 Thread Kovalan Muniandy
Thanks, my fellow graphics member, Manu! However, it still complains with the same exception. (I even tried PickTool.setCapabilities method.) Can someone share an excerpt of code that has the picking a 3d object working? Thank you, Kovalan Ps. Mine is as follows: // Main: pickCanvas = new Pic

Re: [JAVA3D] Billboard behavior dies on View.stopView()

2000-09-21 Thread Kelvin Chung
Hi Joel, Bug 4373117 is filed for investigation. Thanks for your bug report. - Kelvin - Java 3D Team Sun Microsystems Inc. >X-Unix-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 21 06:53:43 2000 >Importance: high >X-Priority: 1 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:40:42 -0400 >Fr

[JAVA3D] drawing stuff

2000-09-21 Thread Shlomo Hershkop
If anyone can help me out i would really appriciate it. I am trying to draw an iv file in java3d. I am able to get all the 3d points to draw, and an index list of which points form each polygon (example, 6,7,7 = polygon1 is first 6 3dpoints,poly2 with next 7 etc) what is the best way to get tha

[JAVA3D] high performance graphics on a laptop?

2000-09-21 Thread Evan Drumwright
As there has been a lot of discussion on the failure of laptops to provide good hardware acceleration, I figure I'll go ahead and throw this out there: Is there *any* way to get near GeForce performance out of a laptop, assuming price is not an object? Evan Drumwright ==

Re: [JAVA3D] ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException after detach

2000-09-21 Thread Kasparian, Raffi J.
Yes, OrderedGroup is broken. I submitted hte following program to the discussion group once earlier and didn't get a response so I'm sending it again and I also have sent it directly to the 'Java 3D beta program'. I think that the bug was initially reported much earlier by someone else and that th

[JAVA3D] 3d file loaders

2000-09-21 Thread Neil Henderson
Hi,   I've downloaded a few 3d file loaders from sites. I'm having problems using them and i think  it's to do with where they're placed. I think i may have placed them in really bad places or in the worng l=place all together. Is there a specific place that they need to be or can they be pl

Re: [JAVA3D] A N I M A 3 D v1.0 Beta 1. New software

2000-09-21 Thread Daniel del Río
Thanks Andrew , it's great !! Andrew Phelps wrote: > FYI: You mention that your site is only in spanish. Altavista have a nice > facility which translates a web site to a different language. You can > therefore let english/german/french/italian speakers view your web site by > entering the fo

[JAVA3D] Java3D Benchmark Thoughts (was ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K)

2000-09-21 Thread Mark Ferneau
At Sense8, we developed a 3D graphics benchmark known as Indy3D which was (and still is) fairly widely used for comparing performance across OS, platforms, adapters, configurations, etc. It is OpenGL only, however. The source code (C++ with calls to one of Sense8's products, WorldToolKit) is ava

Re: [JAVA3D] Java 3D application distribution for WinNT

2000-09-21 Thread Isie Masri
David, Did the Jet product increase the performance of your Java 3d 1.2 applications ? Thanks, Isie Masri At 11:33 AM 9/21/2000 -0400, you wrote: >One thing you can consider is the Excelsior Jet product. They can compile >your java3d application, and even have distribution builders which do >

Re: [JAVA3D] Java 3D application distribution for WinNT

2000-09-21 Thread John Wright
Christoph, You can also use javaw instead of java to run your program so that the user doesn't see or get left with an ugly DOS box used to spawn the Java program. - John Wright Starfire Research "Stanley, Robert" wrote: > > Hello Christoph, > > You can include the jre folder with your java app

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread Alejandro Terrazas
John Wright wrote: As far as Java 3D goes my opinion is that the most critical factor that matters is whether or not you are obtaining hardware acceleration or not (makes about a 20x difference). This could make a big difference in my Cave application as I am using 3 PCI cards. Everything is fi

Re: [JAVA3D] Java 3D application distribution for WinNT

2000-09-21 Thread Yazel, David J.
One thing you can consider is the Excelsior Jet product. They can compile your java3d application, and even have distribution builders which do exactly what you are looking for. I have gotten my apps working with their 0.7 version without a problem. Dave Yazel > -- > From: Chri

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread John Wright
Bob, I agree that it'd be nice to have a "benchmark" Java 3D test. But anyone that knows benchmarking would know that there are a lot of issues and no one benchmark will cover all the possible factors (ie some video cards handle textures better than others and a benchmark that doesn't use textur

[JAVA3D] correction to null pointer error program

2000-09-21 Thread Will Holcomb
I sent out a program yesterday to demonstrate a null pointer when detaching and reattaching groups quickly. Well, it responds to keystrokes and I put a keylistener on the canvas and it works if you click on the canvas (which I was doing when I was running it since there is a rotate and room behavi

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread Justin Couch
John Wright wrote: > What we found out was that ATI must provide a very limited base > reference driver (without OpenGL support) and the chipset, it is then up > to the laptop manufacturer (Dell or whoever) to implement real support. Yes. That much I could figure out. Using D3D for Java3D is fin

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread John Wright
Justin, One of our clients bought a Dell Inspiron thinking they'd be able to get hardware 3D acceleration... big mistake. We chased ATI, we chased Dell... no luck. One Dell technician didn't even know what OpenGL was. What we found out was that ATI must provide a very limited base reference dri

Re: [JAVA3D] Java 3D application distribution for WinNT

2000-09-21 Thread Stanley, Robert
Hello Christoph, You can include the jre folder with your java application, so that the user does not have to install java in order to run your application. The jre folder is the java runtime environment, provided by Sun's website (java.sun.com). You can include a batch file (your_app.bat, for e

[JAVA3D] Billboard behavior dies on View.stopView()

2000-09-21 Thread J. Lee Dixon
Still playing with billboards, I have found that when I stop the real-time rendering with a call to View.stopView(), then start it again with View.startView(), that the billboard is no longer updated. Here is an example from the Java3D examples that I edited... use the toggle button to turn the v

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread Bob Gray
I'd like to see a performance table for Java 3D listing different video cards, configurations, operating systems, frame rate acheived. This could be done by first defining and writting a performance test program and making that program available on a web site. Then, anyone wanting to see how

[JAVA3D] Box

2000-09-21 Thread Mark Beckman
Hi Folks, I have noticed some interesting behavior when using the Box class to create geometry in my scene graph. Given the following code: Transform3D tableTop = new Transform3D(); TransformGroup tableTopTrans = new TransformGroup(tableTop); tableTop.set(new Vector3f(0.0f, 0.0f, 0.0f)); tableTo

Re: [JAVA3D] Box

2000-09-21 Thread Eric Reiss
This is the proper way for a Box to be constructed. The dimensions get doubled so if you want 70 X 130 X 3.0 then use Box(35, 65, 1.5f, tTAp)). At 06:52 AM 09/21/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Folks, > >I have noticed some interesting behavior when using >the Box class to create geometry in my sc

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread Justin Couch
Jimmy Talbot wrote: > We bought an IBM THinkpad A20p with Rage Mobility 128, Win2k. Although > RM128 is supposed to support HW T&L, IBM's implementation doesn't. That's > right, here I was thinking I was going awesome performance... But n, > IBM is actually allowed to modify ATI's specs. Hmm

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread Jimmy Talbot
Hi, > This sound about right? Am thinking that probably better to stay with > Win98 as the support is better for HW accelaration. Any comments on > experiences with Win2K+laptop users out there on how well J3D runs with > it? We bought an IBM THinkpad A20p with Rage Mobility 128, Win2k. Although

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread John Wright
Alex, As far as I know nobody has tried to systematically benchmark Java 3D. We have tested and compared our application on several systems (GeForce 256, Matrox G200, Matrox G400, TNT, TNT2, Voodoo 3, ATI, laptops) and the GeForce generates a huge improvement (2x to 4x) over the others but otherw

[JAVA3D] Java 3D application distribution for WinNT

2000-09-21 Thread Christoph Widmer
What is the best solution for a Java 3D application distribution for the WinNT platform? Ideally, this should be a single .exe or self-extracting file including the 1.2 jre, j3d libraries and my application. Also, users should be able to start the application from a desktop icon just like any othe

Re: [JAVA3D] ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException after detach

2000-09-21 Thread Alexander Wojnar
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Discussion list for Java 3D API [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Alexander Wojnar Gesendet: Thursday, September 21, 2000 3:31 PM An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [JAVA3D] ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException after detach Hi again I havae just found out tha

[JAVA3D] ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException after detach

2000-09-21 Thread Alexander Wojnar
Hi all i work on a viewer which shall be able to load a Modell during runtime. When i load a model for the first time, everything is correctly rendered. But when i try to load another model i get the following exception. java.lang.IndexOutOfBoundsException: Index: -1, Size: 4 at java.ut

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread Alejandro Terrazas
It strikes me that there is a lot of variability in the performance people are getting from different graphics cards on different platforms. I wonder how much of this is related to bus speeds, DMA and other hardware settings on the PC itself. Some of these results may be independent of the graph

Re: [JAVA3D] ATI Rage Mobility 128 + Win2K

2000-09-21 Thread Blair MacIntyre
We recently bought a NEC Versa latop (the highest end model) because it had the Savage/MX chipset, which is supposed to be one of the best chipsets for 3D on a laptop (same league as the Rage128, far better than the other Rage Mobility) Our experience is that J3D runs terribly on this machine. A

Re: [JAVA3D] A N I M A 3 D v1.0 Beta 1. New software

2000-09-21 Thread Justin Couch
Andrew Phelps wrote: > > FYI: You mention that your site is only in spanish. Altavista have a nice > facility which translates a web site to a different language. Yeah, I press english and it comes out in a different language alright! :) -- Justin CouchAut

Re: [JAVA3D] A N I M A 3 D v1.0 Beta 1. New software

2000-09-21 Thread Andrew Phelps
FYI: You mention that your site is only in spanish. Altavista have a nice facility which translates a web site to a different language. You can therefore let english/german/french/italian speakers view your web site by entering the following site: http://babel.altavista.com/translate.dyn and fi