Wow, talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Very
disappointing (in the toolbar move).
On Nov 12, 5:04 pm, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> JavaSE 6 update 10 is the Consumer JRE
> On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Michael Neale wrote:
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>
>
> > Wasn't it supposed to provide
I thought that idea was not terribly popular any more - Eclipse kinda
does it, and its sometimes held up as a bad example - always
surprising users by showing/hiding things.
On Nov 12, 3:50 pm, ranjith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What would be the ideas to design a UI where the toolbar has to ch
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On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:48 PM, Michael Neale wrote:
>
> Wasn't it supposed to provide a "flash like" plug in installation
> experience? Or is it not ready yet (and its not update 10? ).
>
> Cause the flash like experience seems to be worlds away from the MSN
>
You mean this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_(computing)
?
See also: https://substance-flamingo.dev.java.net/see.html
Peter
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:50 PM, ranjith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What would be the ideas to design a UI where the toolbar has to change
> based on the
What would be the ideas to design a UI where the toolbar has to change
based on the perspective? The perspective, however, determines the
workflow that the application offers. So, the perspectives also should
get appropriate representation.
Currently I am thinking of something like below.
Suppose
A reference *points* to a place on the heap. If, how and when they are
ever moved depends on the garbage collector. To avoid fragmentation,
sweeps are made and objects can be moved to different generations and
the references are then updated. Only sure thing to never be moved,
are references to Pe
Yeah thats sort of what I meant to say, the references in Java are
safe, but C style pointers are less reliable but have more
functionality, is this also safe to say?
On Nov 12, 3:13 pm, Casper Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A reference *points* to a place on the heap. If, how and when they ar
Ok no problem, so what about the other thing I said, am I on the right
track?
On Nov 12, 1:11 pm, Weiqi Gao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kram wrote:
> > Ok, so in C a pointer just points to a memory location, if whatever is
> > at that locations moves you get into trouble. But with Java, a
> > re
Was prompted by this:
http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/What_Language_Do_You_Game_In_
On Nov 12, 1:48 pm, Michael Neale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wasn't it supposed to provide a "flash like" plug in installation
> experience? Or is it not ready yet (and its not update 10? ).
>
> Cause the flash l
Wasn't it supposed to provide a "flash like" plug in installation
experience? Or is it not ready yet (and its not update 10? ).
Cause the flash like experience seems to be worlds away from the MSN
toolbar experience for users (for most users, who are windows, on most
browsers, which is IE, Java w
Kram wrote:
> Ok, so in C a pointer just points to a memory location, if whatever is
> at that locations moves you get into trouble. But with Java, a
> reference points to an object which has its own memory address that
> may change and the reference wont be affected?
>
> Also, Weiqi Gao says tha
yeah - hence my desire for the distro to come from somewhere else
eventually. But for consumers, its still not good enough. Its a real
shame to see all the consumer JRE hard work done now going to waste.
On Nov 11, 8:24 pm, Joe Data <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2:23 am, Joshua Marina
Ok, so in C a pointer just points to a memory location, if whatever is
at that locations moves you get into trouble. But with Java, a
reference points to an object which has its own memory address that
may change and the reference wont be affected?
Also, Weiqi Gao says that Java has no pointers (
That didn't come out right. lol Java always passes a copy of the
pointer/reference, but does so by value. So if you cross a stack frame
boundary (say call into a method) there will now be two distinct
references to the thing. That's why a swap won't work, you may swap
your second reference but tha
Yes, Java has pointers. But it has no support for pointer arithmetics
and you cannot implement a swap method. Java always passes a copy
(reference) to a pointer.
/Casper
On Nov 12, 12:15 am, Kram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does Java have pointers? I have been trying to get a definitive answer
Kram wrote:
> Does Java have pointers? I have been trying to get a definitive answer
> using Google and half the sites say that Java has Pointers the other
> half say no.
Half of them are wrong. Don't listen to them. :)
> I have found on the Sun website that Java does not have Pointers.
> Which
Does Java have pointers? I have been trying to get a definitive answer
using Google and half the sites say that Java has Pointers the other
half say no.
I have found on the Sun website that Java does not have Pointers.
Which really answers my question, but if references can be thought of
in simil
actually my point was that you can only get the generic type
information in the cases where it is there in compile time
but, for instance, imagine that you had this:
public class GenericTest {
private List list = new ArrayList();
}
even if you create an instance of GenericTest with String, t
On Oct 29, 8:47 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Switched to the nightly so I have something to play with on the
> loong flight to San Fransisco. All the whitespace issues are
> cleared up, and there's a lot more error reporting and smart insertion
> to boot. No showstopper
Can you please give an example with some bits of code?
I'm not sure what scenario you are trying to solve (or implying you
can't solve).
What are you going to use a Map instance field for?
(Would this be a "Generics" way of initialise a field?)
On Nov 10, 10:27 pm, "Marcelo Fukushima" <[EMAIL PRO
>From http://www.springsource.com/g2one
"On November 11, 2008, SpringSource announced that it acquired G2One Inc.,
the company behind the popular Groovy and Grails technologies. With the
acquisition of G2One, SpringSource will now offer global enterprise support
offerings for developers and IT ope
Dear passengers, the left wing is NOT on fire.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:26 AM, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I can neither confirm nor deny the awesome rumor that the JavaFX SDK
> will soon be released. :)
>
> - Josh, on the go
>
> On Nov 9, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Kram <[EMAIL PROTE
On Nov 11, 2:23 am, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The addons to not increase the download size unless you choose the
> extra install. With the kernel the minimum install is greatly reduced
> from the previous JRE installs.
>
> - Josh, on the go
The problem is that it is opt-ou
There was no date on the article but it looked like it was from the
1990s. Given the way that Sun has been churning through its Java
developers recently, the number of people left from that era could
probably be counted on one hand.
(While I'm writing this, I see that the Google Ads on the right
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