[The Java Posse] Yourkit is NOT BSD...

2009-02-26 Thread Mark Derricutt
Hey guys, Was listening to the latest Posse episode this morning and you mentioned the new Yourkit release, and happened to say it was BSD. Only the profiler agent and controller are are freely redistributable under BSD license, the application itself is still very much commercial. ...and then B

[The Java Posse] Re: Closure Prep for java7?

2009-02-26 Thread Alex Buckley
OK, I see now. I don't think it's crazy stuff. It's the kind of creative thinking not done by existing module systems because they don't have to handle unversioned and versioned code simultaneously. As we start to split up the JRE, we'll see what kind of binary incompatibilities look desirable ei

[The Java Posse] Re: Closure Prep for java7?

2009-02-26 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
I was more talking about e.g. a classloader that will on-the-fly rewrite 'old style' code to 'new style' code. For example, it would on- the-fly rewrite something like: Point p = foo.getSize(); p.x = 10; bar.setSize(p); to: MutablePoint p = MutablePoint.of(foo.getSize()); p.x = 10; bar.setSize(

[The Java Posse] Re: SQL queries on the cheap - is it worth it?

2009-02-26 Thread Rakesh
What EoD SQL is not: * EoD SQL will not parse or validate your SQL in any way * EoD SQL is not a database or database connector, it sits on top of JDBC * EoD SQL will not get you girls right, thats of the short list! R :)) On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:00 PM, N4Spd wrote: > > Existin

[The Java Posse] Re: 3D Ski Maps

2009-02-26 Thread Derek Munneke
Another (?) 3d ski map applet (http://3dskimaps.com/ ) featured as applet of the week in episode #103 about this time last year (ie. just before round-up) http://www.javaposse.com/index.php?post_id=181873 I still want an applet that will actually

[The Java Posse] 3D Ski Maps

2009-02-26 Thread tina
Came across this article about 3D ski maps for various mountains http://technology.slashgeo.org/technology/09/02/18/1516257.shtml with links to some blog entries. It uses Java Applets and has a map for Crested Butte! All maps http://www.ski.com/interactive/maps.aspx Crested Butte http://www.ski.

[The Java Posse] Re: Who Uses Portlets?

2009-02-26 Thread Andrew Harmel Law
In my second-to-last project we had a JSR-168 portlet-based intranet app (plus IBM Process Server back-end) foisted on us by unknowing Enterprise Architects. This kind of sums up my experiences - sounds great on paper, but in reality we ended up building a standard web app by bolting together mul

[The Java Posse] Re: Closure Prep for java7?

2009-02-26 Thread Alex Buckley
On Feb 25, 7:59 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Alex, you haven't explained how we can migrate list safely, then. > > If lots and lots of legacy code cannot accept new-style lists, then > trying to integrate with the older code is going to be a very > frustrating exercise. In general, legacy co

[The Java Posse] Re: SQL queries on the cheap - is it worth it?

2009-02-26 Thread N4Spd
Existing alternatives: - persist at http://code.google.com/p/persist/ - EoD SQL at https://eodsql.dev.java.net/ - Ebean at http://www.avaje.org/ On Feb 22, 6:21 am, Christian Hvid wrote: > Hi Java people. > > I have been toying with simplier ways of doing embedded SQL in Java. > > And would

[The Java Posse] TheServerSide Java Symposium..

2009-02-26 Thread kawanka
I'm wondering if anyone from the Java Posse is going to be at TheServerSide Java Symposium Assuming you will have recovered in time from the Roundup of course... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Th

[The Java Posse] Re: Closure Prep for java7?

2009-02-26 Thread Tom Copeland
On Feb 26, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > > Yes, findbugs works on class files right now, but there's no reason > why it couldn't work on source files. Some projects have tried > (arguscodewatch for example) and while they're mostly inactive at this > point, source-level scannin

[The Java Posse] Re: Closure Prep for java7?

2009-02-26 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Yes, findbugs works on class files right now, but there's no reason why it couldn't work on source files. Some projects have tried (arguscodewatch for example) and while they're mostly inactive at this point, source-level scanning is better in many ways; you can have quick fix suggestions and cert

[The Java Posse] Re: Tuples versus structs for multi-return types

2009-02-26 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Many languages already have tuples, so I'd say any tuple proposal needs to think about how to add them in a way that e.g. a jython tuple is mostly interchangable with a java tuple. On Feb 26, 11:55 am, Peter Becker wrote: > Couldn't they just be objects on the JVM level? It seems sufficient if >

[The Java Posse] Re: Heads up! 232 coming, but so is tempo posse!

2009-02-26 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
I have some ideas on how to pull that off automatically too (well, automatically in the sense that anyone who feels like it can mail a chaptermark text file to the bot). But I'm juggling a few too many hobby projects as is, so lets see how tempoposse does first. On Feb 26, 11:28 am, Dave Patters

[The Java Posse] Re: What would you recommend?

2009-02-26 Thread BoD
: So sad, and so true. Christian Catchpole wrote: > To get them ready for life as a developer, just give them a 2 Gig log > file littered with stack traces and a screaming dev manager. > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subs

[The Java Posse] Re: Closure Prep for java7?

2009-02-26 Thread robilad
On Feb 26, 5:04 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > What are the downsides of > integrating findbugs into javac, especially if it is done in a way > that you can easily replace findbugs or upgrade that part of it > separately? Well, the point of javac is that it operates on Java source code. The

[The Java Posse] Re: Tuples versus structs for multi-return types

2009-02-26 Thread Peter Becker
Couldn't they just be objects on the JVM level? It seems sufficient if the compiler constrains them. Peter Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Would take much more fancy dancing in the JVM spec (compared to > Tuples, which is pretty much JVM independent), so its a bit heavier in > that sense, but i

[The Java Posse] Re: Heads up! 232 coming, but so is tempo posse!

2009-02-26 Thread Dave Patterson
Not sure if it's been done but chapterposse would be cool. Dave Patterson. On Feb 26, 6:45 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Steven (Herod) and I finished our sped up posse project. > > Starting at episode #229, you can get your javaposse podcast at 20% > speedup, in case you're in a hurry. The

[The Java Posse] Who Uses Portlets?

2009-02-26 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
In the last podcast that I listened to, Dick asked who uses portlets and suggested that they might be found on company intranets. That's exactly right. In "my" company we have an intranet that is accessed daily by the majority of our 50,000 employees. We started using portlets last years and th