[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Derek Munneke
would be a pity to see zfs and dtrace dissappear - the linux guys can't put into their kernel - need some space tourist to adopt opensolairs and become it's SABDF ;) Joe Data wrote: > On Mar 19, 12:29 am, Steven Herod wrote: > >> Do you see the possibility that Solaris could supplant Linux

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Jan Goyvaerts
that's one of my concerns too - I love the stuff ! I'm even going to teach it. Let's hope it won't feel like teaching latin - a dead language. ;-) On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Ruben Reusser wrote: > > Personally, I am wondering what it will do to JavaFX - it would be a > shame to loose it. I

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Frederic Simon
The main issues I have with IBM:- They always proved that their product line don't take developer productivity has an input. Developers time is a big revenue stream for IBM global services and others and so they have negative incentive to actually reduce our suffering :( - Sun has the worst sales d

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Joe Data
On Mar 19, 12:29 am, Steven Herod wrote: > Do you see the possibility that Solaris could supplant Linux in the > IBM suite? I don't know. For all the talk by Sun about the fabulous Solaris uptake in the market, it sure doesn't make a lot of money: $42 million in the last quarter, -29% year-to-y

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Ruben Reusser
Personally, I am wondering what it will do to JavaFX - it would be a shame to loose it. It's just out there and IBM would have to commit to the same path that Sun had in mind for it. Ruben On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Steven Herod wrote: > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB12373597080626792

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Jan Goyvaerts
For what I am concerned, I would consider this a very sad thought... I've known Java from the days it started and I've always associated Sun with it. If Sun would be bought, I think Java won't be Java any more. It will have been 'assimilated' by some commercial entity, just for the sake of profits

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
On Mar 18, 4:43 pm, James Ward wrote: > Just be glad it's not Microsoft.  :) mmm Java#.Net 2.0. I can just see it now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group,

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Jess Holle
I'm sure Sun execs told employees it was a focus thing and told them to be focused. Meanwhile they focused on selling the farm... Joe Data wrote: > On Mar 18, 6:56 am, Steven Herod wrote: > >> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123735970806267921.html >> >> Personally, it's probably good for 'J

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Jess Holle
Joe Data wrote: >> Power vs Sparc >> > No idea what would happen here. > IBM is trying to avoid buying the hardware division according to most articles I've read. Fujitsu might buy this slice of Sun, for instance. >> Lotus Symphony vs OpenOffice >> > Wrong: Lotus Symphony is "Eclipse

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Jess Holle
Peter Becker wrote: > Eclipse used to be impressive, but nowadays I get the impression IBM has > no real interest in making it a decent Java IDE anymore. Eclipse methodology: Step 1: Capture market share Step 2: Let free products languish or simply keep it from providing a full solution and prod

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Becker
Eclipse used to be impressive, but nowadays I get the impression IBM has no real interest in making it a decent Java IDE anymore. Compared to NetBeans it still wins hands down in anything related to code hygiene (NetBeans doesn't even bother to properly format the code it generates) and it is