[The Java Posse] Re: HTC Magic/Android G2 phone experiences?

2009-06-24 Thread Viktor Klang
I've got ~99MB available to android, so yes, it seems that you are correct. That's a total bummer. Well, I won't sell this to get a Scandinavian version, that's for sure. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Casper Bang wrote: > > I just snooped around, turns out your phone experience might differ

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Steve
On Jun 24, 8:20 am, "Vince O'Sullivan" wrote: > After reading this rather depressing thread, I can't help but think > "Java is dead.". > > Time to get out the Scala book. http://www.raverun.com/writings/tech/scalaosgi/ There's no escape :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
Come back VB6. All is forgiven! On Jun 24, 10:09 am, Steve wrote: > There's no escape :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@google

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Steve
On Jun 24, 10:04 pm, "Vince O'Sullivan" wrote: > Come back VB6.  All is forgiven! > Please, there's been enough belligerence in this thread, that's just taking it too far. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread phil swenson
> Of course there is a shortcut in making a standard. You make something > good, and hope the people will flock to it. It helps if you are > building the framework/tool/library/whatever because you have a > specific itch that needs scratching, and any use by others is bonus. > Huh, that sounds kin

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Eric Newcomer
>My position is: let the best technology win. I don't see a lot of >discussion about which approach has the best technology. This is exactly the position of the OSGi folks as well, including me. It would be great if the debate were about technical issues, instead of process issues, timing issues

[The Java Posse] Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo) Released

2009-06-24 Thread vogella
Eclipse 3.5 (Galileo) has been released. News and Noteworthy: Eclipse 3.5 – New and Noteworthy in the Platform, Equinox, JDT and PDE: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.5-200906111540/eclipse-news.html Eclipse 3.5 – New and Noteworthy in Eclipse WTP 3.1: http://www.eclipse

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Neale
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_of_the_bikeshed On Jun 24, 7:09 pm, Steve wrote: > On Jun 24, 8:20 am, "Vince O'Sullivan" wrote: > > > After reading this rather depressing thread, I can't help but think > > "Java is dead.". > > > Time to get out the Scala book. > > http://www.raverun.com/wri

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Christian Catchpole
so... what colour did they choose? On Jun 25, 11:28 am, Michael Neale wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_of_the_bikeshed > > On Jun 24, 7:09 pm, Steve wrote: > > > > > On Jun 24, 8:20 am, "Vince O'Sullivan" wrote: > > > > After reading this rather depressing thread, I can't help but t

[The Java Posse] Re: HTC Magic/Android G2 phone experiences?

2009-06-24 Thread Casper Bang
Since tt doesn't sound like you fancy the UI much, you might want to upgrade with the Sense UI (formerly known as Rosie) when HTC makes it available for the Magic: http://androidoverview.com/?p=1014 /Casper On 24 Jun., 10:08, Viktor Klang wrote: > I've got ~99MB available to android, so yes, it

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Michael Neale
The beige, the off-white, bone etc... On Jun 25, 11:49 am, Christian Catchpole wrote: > so... what colour did they choose? > > On Jun 25, 11:28 am, Michael Neale wrote: > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_of_the_bikeshed > > > On Jun 24, 7:09 pm, Steve wrote: > > > > On Jun 24, 8:20 am, "V

[The Java Posse] Re: My notes about project Jigsaw from JavaOne

2009-06-24 Thread Joe Nuxoll (Java Posse)
I like turtles. On Jun 22, 3:33 pm, Eric Newcomer wrote: > And now this conversation is starting to go in circles...  There is no > shortcut to becoming a standard, which is what Jigsaw is aiming for.  Unless > you think it doesn't matter whether any other Java vendors support it? > > This is al

[The Java Posse] Re: web pagination - #247 - Roundup 09 - Design and Engineering

2009-06-24 Thread Joe Nuxoll (Java Posse)
On June 19th, 2009 - you saw load-shedding technology in full-effect, where the system is designed to make subtle changes in the UI to reduce load. Pagination controls reduce site load, because you have to explicitly click to fetch another page of data. The "auto- pagination" feature, as we call