[The Java Posse] Re: Technical differences between the JVM and CLR

2010-11-13 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
A language with 100 outdated features almost nobody uses anymore because they are obscure or simply not really needed anymore due to optimisations, is a bad language. On Nov 12, 6:13 am, Casper Bang wrote: > > Exception C# (the language) will be stuck with it. > > How so? Why does the fact that y

[The Java Posse] Re: "JKoala is an open source project aimed at porting AWT / Swing under Mac OS X / Cocoa"

2010-11-13 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Well, cheers to you for taking an active stance, at any rate. On Nov 12, 5:53 pm, Puybaret wrote: > Hi, > > Since Oracle and Apple announced OpenJDK Project for Mac OS X and Java > SE 6 support for Mac OS X Lion on November 12, 2010, JKoala isn't > required anymore and won't go further. Therefore

[The Java Posse] Re: Oracle and Apple Announce OpenJDK Project for OSX

2010-11-13 Thread Mike Wolfson
This is good news. Lets hope Oracle continues to do the right thing. On Nov 12, 6:54 am, Chris Adamson wrote: > Dalibor just tweeted a link to this: > > http://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/2010/11/oracle_and_apple_announce_open... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the G

[The Java Posse] We should throw a retirement party for X11

2010-11-13 Thread SchemaCzar
I and a lot of people I know have a love/hate relationship with the X Window System. There are lots of things about X11 that I don't miss when I'm not using it. X11 inspires a lot of gratitude, however. I think it's been about 20 years I've used it off an on and I've been able to rely on it to g

[The Java Posse] Java Freedom Day celebrated by Apple joining OpenJDK

2010-11-13 Thread robogeek
A couple brain cells just clicked together and I remembered what event happened four years ago, today. Namely, the OpenJDK project was launched on Nov 13, 2006 (which was a Monday). In May 2007 I wrote a blog post during JavaOne at which the rest of the OpenJDK project was launched ... and decid

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Why not standardize Java presentation layer on top of OpenGL?

2010-11-13 Thread Ricky Clarkson
It's fair if users automatically get those components when they need them, and if that somehow magically works when the machine is offline without Java applications having to distribute their own full profile JRE. tl;dr no, it should be possible to opt out of the UI toolkit, but keeping it as a de

[The Java Posse] Re: Apple contributes OS X java to Open JDK, Oracle to take over dev and distribution

2010-11-13 Thread Steven Herod
I obviously haven't been keeping up then :) On Nov 13, 6:36 pm, Rob Ross wrote: > Not sure if this was sarcasm or not, but this story has been a hot topic here > since 6am this morning! > > Rob > > On Nov 12, 2010, at 10:25 PM, Steven Herod wrote: > > > > >http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/11

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Why not standardize Java presentation layer on top of OpenGL?

2010-11-13 Thread Miroslav Pokorny
Its unfortunate that the UI toolkit is a mandatory part of a basic JRE profile. Everybody needs the image libraries once if not often but the UI really should be an optional extra... is that a fair comment ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java P