Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Running Android apps on non-Android phones

On 02/13/2011 04:48 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: Fail. So, I get a Nokia OS, running some Nokia apps (well, Windows 7 I guess), Some android apps, and some flash apps. And you think this is going to feel okay and look nice? Yeah. I'll believe that when I see it. Me too wants to see it, o

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Running Android apps on non-Android phones

True. I very much doubt this is a good idea, but, hey, if they want to try it, more power to them. Either way it's good news for android (if true, of course). And who knows? --Reinier Zwitserloot On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Fabrizio Giudici < fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it> wrote: > On 02

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Magic float kills Java?

found this linked off the php version of the bug: http://www.exploringbinary.com/why-volatile-fixes-the-2-2250738585072011e-308-bug/ which would lead me to believe that the bug is actually a call from byte-code dow

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Magic float kills Java?

You can represent the whole Brisbane bunch :) As for the bug, I believe it's in an underlying C library that both PHP and Java use internally to parse floats, which is why it doesn't happen on all VMs. Somebody (here?) mentioned that it doesn't affect Kaffe, for example. -Josh On 14 February 201

[The Java Posse] Re: Magic float kills Java?

It could be either. But my guess is Java. Is is "just a parser" and nothing fundamental that a JIT would be doing. > In other news are you coming to the roundup? you're a great presence on the > google group, would be good to meet you in person. Thanks dude. I'v been wanting to go. When the de

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Magic float kills Java?

thanks Christian! So would you say then the bug is in the Java code called by Double.parse()? from the nature of the advisory I thought it was a bug in some native code running in the JVM... In other news are you coming to the roundup? you're a great presence on the google group, would be good to

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Mercurial vs Git

It also provides a nice way to reorder some items for either earlier or later releasing. I realize it is probably easier to use cherry-pick, but if I fix a "common" bug in my branch, I can always pull that commit into the master branch before I finish my branch work. -- You received this message

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java still TIOBE King

On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 17:21 +, Kevin Wright wrote: > On 13 February 2011 17:07, Vince O'Sullivan > wrote: > No one could deny that a Scottish tablet would hit the sweet > spot. > How about a scotch tablet? Turns water into a rather drinkable single > malt... Not possible.

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java still TIOBE King

On 13 February 2011 17:07, Vince O'Sullivan wrote: > On Feb 13, 10:23 am, Phil wrote: > > Graham, > > > > I was about to call you out on English subtitles for the hard of > > Scottish in the UK but then the tablets kicked in and I realised > > you're baiting... > > > > Phil. > No one could deny

[The Java Posse] Re: Java still TIOBE King

On Feb 13, 10:23 am, Phil wrote: > Graham, > > I was about to call you out on English subtitles for the hard of > Scottish in the UK but then the tablets kicked in and I realised > you're baiting... > > Phil. No one could deny that a Scottish tablet would hit the sweet spot. -- You received this

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Running Android apps on non-Android phones

On 02/13/2011 05:53 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: True. I very much doubt this is a good idea, but, hey, if they want to try it, more power to them. Either way it's good news for android (if true, of course). And who knows? For me, it would have serious consequences on my decisions. If I see

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe, Android is Java - not really

On 02/13/2011 05:48 PM, Serge Boulay wrote: I'm curious, why is Oracle putting effort into LUIT if Java ME is dead or has no hope ? Being dead doesn't mean that it's not profitable. I think that there will be an ecosystem for JME for still some time and people, including Oracle, can be profitab

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe, Android is Java - not really

I'm curious, why is Oracle putting effort into LUIT if Java ME is dead or has no hope ? 2011/2/13 Cédric Beust ♔ > > > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > >> As every phone company is spotting Java ME / CLDC / MIDP is now >> an awful platform. >> > > From my experience, Java

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Mercurial vs Git

No, but that's the point: That means I don't have to worry about cursing in debug prints, hardcoding a few passwords, or doing something that'll get endless scorn heaped onto me if figured out, such as parsing some HTML with regexps :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe, Android is Java - not really

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Russel Winder wrote: > As every phone company is spotting Java ME / CLDC / MIDP is now > an awful platform. > >From my experience, Java ME has *always* been an awful platform. -- Cédric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Mercurial vs Git

If someone else rebases then does *my* clone have their original commits in the reflog? On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > The commits you lose are the same commits you lose if you use hg squash. > On git you don't lose those commits either, in fact - they are still in

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Mercurial vs Git

On 02/13/2011 03:50 PM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: The commits you lose are the same commits you lose if you use hg squash. On git you don't lose those commits either, in fact - they are still in the reflog for 3 months. If after 3 months and a gc (i.e. actively developing) you notice a proble

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe, Android is Java - not really

On 02/13/2011 04:50 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: And to rub in that you're really stuck in a dead end, from another thread: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-02-10/rim-is-said-to-plan-playbook-tablet-software-to-run-google-s-android-apps.html J2ME: Dead. Android: Where you should be going,

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Mercurial vs Git

The commits you lose are the same commits you lose if you use hg squash. On git you don't lose those commits either, in fact - they are still in the reflog for 3 months. If after 3 months and a gc (i.e. actively developing) you notice a problem, then I rather doubt poking around in the almost ra

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe, Android is Java - not really

Well, you said it, blackberry is a dying platform. And j2me will go with it. I'm not so sure MeeGo is interesting at this point: I rated the odds of Nokia doing anything good with it at at most 5%, and now with Nokia ditching MeeGo, I'll be very surprised if MeeGo will go anywhere. Why would it

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Joe, Android is Java - not really

On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 19:48 -0800, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Blackberry takes J2ME seriously? Don't make me laugh. http://us.blackberry.com/developers/javaappdev/javadevenv.jsp > First off, blackberry is going down the drain faster than Nokia. > Perhaps more importantly, even blackberry doesn'

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Java still TIOBE King

Phil, I'm not saying it's common, but it has happened[1] - unless I've forgotten *my* tablets and my memory is deceving me. My point was that subtitling different accents of the same language fills a need, and it's not necessarily something that we should get offended or annoyed about. There's

[The Java Posse] Re: Nexus One / Android - bizarre behaviour

On Feb 9, 10:04 pm, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > > Do you know that those white pills that you use for increasing > programming efficiency sometimes have side effects? ;-) > I come at it from the opposite direction, the side effect is that I'm a better programmer, the primary effect is so much more

[The Java Posse] Re: Java still TIOBE King

Graham, I was about to call you out on English subtitles for the hard of Scottish in the UK but then the tablets kicked in and I realised you're baiting... Phil. On Feb 10, 10:39 pm, Graham Allan wrote: > > I wonder if that is worse that the US programs who put subtitles on > > people who speak

[The Java Posse] Re: Magic float kills Java?

It's real. I tried it (before I read the reports that described it) http://twitpic.com/3vwtcq Certain rare cases cause the parsing method to get stuck in a loop. I'v never written a double parser but I can imagine how it happens. Perhaps it's a while(value > 0) loop that expects the value will al

[The Java Posse] Magic float kills Java?

Does anyone know anything about this? I can't imagine how this kind of bug would work. Can only imagine the debug process that found it... -- Sent from my Android phone -- Forwarded message -- From: "Sam Hall" Date: 11/02/2011 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Are we running any PHP instances

Re: [The Java Posse] Re: Mercurial vs Git

The 'original' history is useful in cases where you're sure it worked earlier. After a rebase you don't have the commits from earlier anymore. On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 4:01 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > That's one part of the rebase story - 'public' vs 'private' commits. hg > squash commit doe