Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:42:06 +0100, Oscar Hsieh wrote: I am not sure how a Java Developers can use Chromebook unless you use Cloud-based IDE. Personally I would rather use a cheap linux netbook than a chromebook. Since a Chromebook can run Linux, it's also a sort of cheap linux netbook.

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:11:39 +0100, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote: Maybe I'm overly cynical but I can't help but notice that with the ChromeBooks, Google is making the very same stupid mistake that Sun did with its network computers ten years ago. It's true, it's that old idea just a bit refreshed,

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Cédric Beust ♔
Maybe I'm overly cynical but I can't help but notice that with the ChromeBooks, Google is making the very same stupid mistake that Sun did with its network computers ten years ago. However, I think the ChromeBooks will fail for different reasons. -- Cédric -- Cédric On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Oscar Hsieh
Chromebook runs on ChromeOS which basically a Chrome browser with some extensions. Google recently make some changes to ChromeOS to give it more "OS" look but essentially it is still running in sandboxed browser. Chromebook is Google's attack to Microsoft Windows. Initially Google targeted it to

Re: [The Java Posse] Is retaining failed credentials legal?

2013-01-16 Thread Rakesh
tomorrow I decide to build a website that takes credentials. I don't see if I choose to store the passwords or not, encrypted or not, is governed by some law. Its not enforceable. Obviously, as a professional, I would want to make sure the decision I make does not lead to issues with my business.

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Rakesh
nope, I don't think so. Chromebooks are Google's attempt at getting you to use its online services. Thats it! Nothing to do with Raspberry Pi. The initial launch wanted to target education IIRC. http://googleblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/chromebooks-for-classrooms-99-for_10.html I think the lands

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Kirk Pepperdine
I've admittedly been absent. I was off having fun tuning ScalaBuild so I'm just catching up. You know as hardware platforms are becoming ungluded from MS we're seeing a huge amount of fragmentation out there. We've got tons of phones, tablets, ultra-light notebooks, CES demonstrated a number of

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 14:17:49 +0100, Rakesh wrote: Guys, I think you're missing the point - Chromebooks are meant to be a 'gateway' to the cloud. Running Java apps locally defeats the point of the device. Absolutely right. But I think that Kirk's question was about "misusing" :-) the d

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Rakesh
Guys, I think you're missing the point - Chromebooks are meant to be a 'gateway' to the cloud. Running Java apps locally defeats the point of the device. On 16 January 2013 12:49, Casper Bang wrote: > > Doesn't this mean that they are almost useless for a Java developer? >> > > Java runs* on m

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Casper Bang
> Doesn't this mean that they are almost useless for a Java developer? > Java runs* on my NAS, smartphone and tablet; all ARM devices. So I would disagree that ARM is almost useless for a Java developer. Although I've usually used pre-compiled cacao ipkg JRE on my NAS, you can download vario

Re: [The Java Posse] Is retaining failed credentials legal?

2013-01-16 Thread Ryan Schipper
Definitely the more purist approach. Less value for investigations. In reality, Most organisations choose to take the chance on this in order to assist investigations when necessary Smart software could also check whether the username is valid prior to including it in the log. Though this could o

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:05:21 +0100, Kevin Wright wrote: I wouldn't jump to that conclusion… http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/samsung-chromebook-runs-ubuntu-20121121/ I know that there's Ubuntu, but what about JDK 7 for Ubuntu-ARM? -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s. "

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Kevin Wright
I wouldn't jump to that conclusion… http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/samsung-chromebook-runs-ubuntu-20121121/ On 16 January 2013 09:58, Fabrizio Giudici wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:30:17 +0100, Rakesh > wrote: > > Not used on myself but I did read a favourable article about the new >> Sa

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:30:17 +0100, Rakesh wrote: Not used on myself but I did read a favourable article about the new Samsung range: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/laptops/378565/samsung-chromebook Apart from a series of other questions, they are ARM powered, right? Doesn't this mean th

Re: [The Java Posse] Acer C7 Chromebook

2013-01-16 Thread Rakesh
Not used on myself but I did read a favourable article about the new Samsung range: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/laptops/378565/samsung-chromebook On 15 January 2013 16:05, Kirk Pepperdine wrote: > What is the deal on the Chromebooks. > Are they picking up traction? > What do they really loo