[The Java Posse] Re: Steve Jobs on Flash

2010-05-01 Thread mkpapp
I will apologize in advance for the nitpick - but this is not an appropriate analogy. There were no "existing apps" that would run on the Mac - only DOS and Apple II software (and a handful of other command line "UIs"). The mouse was an entirely new peripheral/ paradigm debuting with the Mac (com

[The Java Posse] Re: Objective C

2010-04-27 Thread mkpapp
Languages, Operating Systems, video cassette formats - not successful on merits but on marketing, FUD, and corporate edicts. Microsoft declared C++ to be the lingua franca of Windows, and so it was. Java became 'accepted' after a critical mass of high-profile companies adopted it for use (IBM, Or

[The Java Posse] Re: software patents

2010-04-08 Thread mkpapp
Before we run off and abolish patents, let's consider what they really are. I am not familiar with patent/copyright history in general, but have studied the concept as defined in the US Constitution and by the US' "founding fathers." The idea is quite reasonable and probably even radical today.

[The Java Posse] Re: why 2010 might be like 1984

2010-03-27 Thread mkpapp
A few points to address: 1. The iPad does need some improvements (as does the iPhone). Wireless sync is one, the list can go on. If Apple does not address these issues, others will (through add-on hardware, I imagine). 2. I join with the growing chorus (and have long believed) that there needs t

[The Java Posse] Re: NY Times: How "Apple vs Google" happened

2010-03-17 Thread mkpapp
While I agree that GMail is not by any means a "walled garden" or any such nonsense, GMail was certainly NOT the first webmail service to allow POP3 access. In fact, several webmail services allowed at least POP3 access, and even IMAP access, before GMail even came into being. As for corporate mo

[The Java Posse] Re: The iPhone, Open Systems, and Leaving Sun

2010-02-05 Thread mkpapp
First of all, best of luck to Josh in his new role at Palm. I have always had a great deal of respect for Palm and their products - despite all the ups and downs the company has withstood. Palm (and every software company) needs great UI engineers and designers. My "best wish" is that you make a

[The Java Posse] Re: VMWare buys SpringSource - thoughts?

2009-08-12 Thread mkpapp
I think you folks are looking at this from the wrong perspective. Last year SpringSource bought Covalent Technologies. Covalent supplies technical support for the Apache Web Server and Apache Tomcat. That places SpringSource in the enterprise infrastructure support and maintenance service busines

[The Java Posse] Re: positive legacy of java - bruce eckel

2009-03-21 Thread mkpapp
I actually think Objective-C, the language, is pretty good and a refreshing change from the "C++-ification" of Java. With all due respect to Bruce, what did in (or continues to drag down) C++ is that it is riddled with ambiguities and anachronisms. It took all the pitfalls of using C and amplifi

[The Java Posse] Re: Sun to sell itself or some of its assets?

2008-11-21 Thread mkpapp
I must mention that I also worked for Sun back in the 90's. Sun had some remarkable products under development at Sun Labs. I had the great fortune to work on one of them. While the product was publicly announced (and demonstrated at the Demo conference), I won't go into the details here. What

[The Java Posse] Re: Influential Java programmers should learn C#

2008-11-03 Thread mkpapp
One question is why we want to run all these different languages on the JVM. I think the most substantial reason is to have access to all the marvelous libraries available in Java. We have those shipped with the JRE, plus a veritable treasure trove of open source libraries and frameworks to choo

[The Java Posse] Re: Why smalltalk didn't take off?

2008-10-01 Thread mkpapp
I would add a few points to those already discussed: 1. I would not posit that Smalltalk "didn't take off" or in anyway "failed." Not many programming languages introduced circa late 70's / early 80's still garner as much attention or hold sway in shaping our current language efforts. One can a