[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Justin
The company i work for didn't necessarily think open source was crap, they were more afraid of being sued. On Apr 2, 1:52 pm, Ryan Waterer wrote: > "Do you know why your previous company, or any other for that effect > would want to limit open source software?" > > A company that I've worked at

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Marcelo Morales
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Viktor Klang wrote: > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Ryan Waterer wrote: >> >> "Do you know why your previous company, or any other for that effect >> would want to limit open source software?" >> >> A company that I've worked at in the past had this belief that

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Ryan Waterer
Viktor, Isn't that the truth! I can't believe the murder that some third party "solutions" get away with. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Viktor Klang wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Ryan Waterer wrote: > >> "Do you know why your previous company, or any other for that effect >>

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Viktor Klang
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Ryan Waterer wrote: > "Do you know why your previous company, or any other for that effect > would want to limit open source software?" > > A company that I've worked at in the past had this belief that if they > didn't pay for the product, > then it must be crap.

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Ryan Waterer
"Do you know why your previous company, or any other for that effect would want to limit open source software?" A company that I've worked at in the past had this belief that if they didn't pay for the product, then it must be crap. In essence, if someone isn't charging you for their product, t

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Marcelo Morales
Thank you Justin. Bear with me a little longer please. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Justin wrote: > This question is easy to answer, my last two employers > forbid the developers from using Spring (one company limited open > source software ... Do you know why your previous company, or any o

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Justin
Marcelo, It sounds like what you are really asking is why would people use EJBs over Spring. This question is easy to answer, my last two employers forbid the developers from using Spring (one company limited open source software and the other had ideological problems with Spring). I haven't use

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Josh Suereth
TBH It's mostly because the shop is more comfortable with EJB. I think we're still in it's "sweet spot" but only because every time we venture out of the sweet spot, it hits us with a large, blunt hammer. Like I stated before, EJB + Seam is almost nice, however we went a different route for our f

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Marcelo Morales
Josh On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Josh Suereth wrote: > Being an EJB 3.0 user (and previous Spring user), I still think Spring has > the upper hand in terms of architecting an application. EJB 3.1 is closing > this gap, but it's more a matter of how soon can it do so vs. how many > people a

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Josh Suereth
Being an EJB 3.0 user (and previous Spring user), I still think Spring has the upper hand in terms of architecting an application. EJB 3.1 is closing this gap, but it's more a matter of how soon can it do so vs. how many people are jumping ship. Right now EJB 3.0 is a box. IF your app fits in th

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-02 Thread Oliver Gierke
IMHO there simply is none. The only argument I see creeping into projects from time to time is a political one: it's standardized. Regards, Ollie On 1 Apr., 17:44, Viktor Klang wrote: > I never really understood the need for EJB, the 2.x version was so > boilerplatey it could kill on sight, and

[The Java Posse] Re: [ep #238] Can you think of a reason to use EJB?

2009-04-01 Thread Viktor Klang
I never really understood the need for EJB, the 2.x version was so boilerplatey it could kill on sight, and by the time 3.0 was out, I'd already moved on... I'd really love some compelling arguments on why to use EJB, anyone care to enlighten me? On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Marcelo Morales w