[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-15 Thread RogerV
Actually there are ways to define a platform portable library (which will ultimately need to address the GUI too) and then statically link in just the code that is used by a particular application (which is the approach Go is taking). The resulting app is self contained. This can be done in such

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-15 Thread Stuart McCulloch
2009/11/15 Casper Bang > > I hear you, and might I add, WebStart is no rosy story either in a > customer scenario. Personally I have always felt that the client Java > approach is a case of "doing all platforms, but none of them > particular well". I suppose there's direct evidence to that, in ho

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-15 Thread Casper Bang
I hear you, and might I add, WebStart is no rosy story either in a customer scenario. Personally I have always felt that the client Java approach is a case of "doing all platforms, but none of them particular well". I suppose there's direct evidence to that, in how NetBeans for Windows is delivere

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Moandji Ezana wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Robert Casto wrote: > >> See what you get when you let engineers design logos! > > > From the article at the beginning of the thread: "Gordon, the Go gopher > mascot, drawn by Rob Pike's wife and illustrator

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-14 Thread WENDELL L HATCHER
Very good article > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:47:30 -0800 > Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go > From: steven.he...@gmail.com > To: javaposse@googlegroups.com > > > I came across this, ALGOL-68 > > http://lua-users.org/l

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-13 Thread Steven Herod
I came across this, ALGOL-68 http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2009-11/msg00576.html Another reminder to me to cease any interest in a language based purely on its language constructs. For me, end user functionality is more important (its libraries, frameworks etc). On Nov 14, 6:22 am, Robert

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-13 Thread Robert Casto
I still think 'grex' is right though. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Moandji Ezana wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Robert Casto wrote: > >> See what you get when you let engineers design logos! > > > From the article at the beginning of the thread: "Gordon, the Go gopher > mascot, dr

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-13 Thread Moandji Ezana
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Robert Casto wrote: > See what you get when you let engineers design logos! >From the article at the beginning of the thread: "Gordon, the Go gopher mascot, drawn by Rob Pike's wife and illustrator Renee French." Moandji --~--~-~--~~~---

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-13 Thread Robert Casto
See what you get when you let engineers design logos! On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:34 PM, grex wrote: > > > > On Nov 11, 1:34 pm, Steven Herod wrote: > > > Personally I look forward to a day when the industry doesn't stand > > around Google like a toilet training toddler, applauding and cheering >

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-13 Thread grex
On Nov 11, 1:34 pm, Steven Herod wrote: > Personally I look forward to a day when the industry doesn't stand > around Google like a toilet training toddler, applauding and cheering > every time something gets 'delivered'. Well, you gotta admin that the Go mascot looks a bit like a little turd

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-12 Thread Joey Gibson
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Steven Herod wrote: > > Personally I look forward to a day when the industry doesn't stand > around Google like a toilet training toddler, applauding and cheering > every time something gets 'delivered'. > Agreed. But if Google is going to do something, I would mu

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-11 Thread Steven Herod
You are right, lack of toilet training never held Michael Neale back, I should get him straight into something simple, like JBoss Rules. On Nov 12, 10:11 am, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote: > Uh, go DOESN'T run on the JVM. Does it? > > Steven: You *AREN'T* teaching your kid to design programming > la

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-11 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
Uh, go DOESN'T run on the JVM. Does it? Steven: You *AREN'T* teaching your kid to design programming languages? Geez. *Some* parents take their kid growing up intelligent and multi-lingual seriously. You lazy git, wasting time with potty training instead. On Nov 11, 10:56 pm, Casper Bang wrote

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-11 Thread Casper Bang
And I look forward to the day where something isn't amazing just because it runs on the JVM - we're all different I guess. /Casper On Nov 11, 10:34 pm, Steven Herod wrote: > There is probably a relationship between the name being difficult to > search for and the fact they didn't find the earli

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-11 Thread Steven Herod
There is probably a relationship between the name being difficult to search for and the fact they didn't find the earlier language. :o) Personally I look forward to a day when the industry doesn't stand around Google like a toilet training toddler, applauding and cheering every time something ge

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-11 Thread Reinier Zwitserloot
>From what I hear I'm guessing go is designed as a replacement for C. As in, for situations where you'd currently use C and not java or python. So, kernels and device drivers. Given that google is doing the chrome OS thing, and given that it's the authors of unix of all things that are behind this

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-11 Thread Fabrizio Giudici
Casper Bang wrote: > Not nearly as interesting as Fan. However, gofmt is probably handy in > the toolchain of large organizations - to prevent Tor from using > space instead of tab. :) > > /Casper LOL. Apart from Casper's comment, for me go seems to be a big yawn. -- Fabrizio Giudici - Java

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-11 Thread Casper Bang
Not nearly as interesting as Fan. However, gofmt is probably handy in the toolchain of large organizations - to prevent Tor from using space instead of tab. :) /Casper On Nov 11, 5:03 am, Kerry Sainsbury wrote: > I went "meh": I don't want to return to a world without exceptions, and > having t

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-10 Thread Kerry Sainsbury
I went "meh": I don't want to return to a world without exceptions, and having to check return values everywhere. I don't fancy going back to a world of * and & either. ... but then I'm a simple man with simple needs. I'm sure larger minds than mine may find something of interest here. Cheers Ke

[The Java Posse] Re: Google hopes to remake programming with Go

2009-11-10 Thread Mark Derricutt
Not had a good look at it yet, but the defer'd expressions look rather awesome. -- Pull me down under... On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:20 PM, CKoerner wrote: > Thoughts, opinions from the Java crowd? > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are